Reminder: All USA Citizens MUST file Taxes with the IRS!

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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby CraigTPE » 10 Aug 2011, 09:48

Lili wrote:
Chris wrote:
Lili wrote:Woah.
I need to pay Taiwanese tax AND the US?

*grumbles and starts some creative thinking*

You only have to pay US tax if you make over US$91,500 a year; you're then taxed on the amount above that.

:roflmao:

Guess I don't have to worry about that then.

It's pretty safe to say that NO ONE teaching English in Taiwan has to worry about that one.

But we still have to file taxes and put that income on the form, then subtract it off a few lines later. We also have to list any interest or investment income in the US.
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby jdsmith » 20 Oct 2011, 11:49

Got a question about my tax filings:

I made a mistake and neglected to write down my son's SSN on last years returns, and the IRS sent me a letter telling me I owed some money. Problem easily solved, but on the form, they also said I didn't supply an SSN or ITIN (individual taxpayer Id Number) for my tai tai. Now, I never have since she has neither.

So, the question is do you guys write an ITIN on your tax forms for your spouse, and if so, how'd ya get it?

Thanks.

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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby Tempo Gain » 20 Oct 2011, 11:51

Never have, filing as "head of household" if I remember correctly. She also doesn't have one.
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby scomargo » 20 Oct 2011, 12:06

jdsmith wrote:Got a question about my tax filings:

I made a mistake and neglected to write down my son's SSN on last years returns, and the IRS sent me a letter telling me I owed some money. Problem easily solved, but on the form, they also said I didn't supply an SSN or ITIN (individual taxpayer Id Number) for my tai tai. Now, I never have since she has neither.

So, the question is do you guys write an ITIN on your tax forms for your spouse, and if so, how'd ya get it?

Thanks.

jdseeks

My wife got an ITIN when she studied in the US. We file jointly, but my wife doesn't make over what's exempted anyway.

Otherwise, I think Tempo Gain's advice is good.
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby jdsmith » 20 Oct 2011, 12:52

I file as HoH too. OK, well, I will send them a very nice letter telling them how very sorry I am about my negligence with promises that it will not happen again, and thank you for bringing this to my attention. :lol:

What burns my bacon is that they could have just checked my past returns to get the boy's SSN. Now I hafta go to the Post Orifice and I hate that because there's always some old lady who tries to elbow my out of her way when I got there first. :fume:
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby Timabee » 04 Jan 2012, 22:38

My apologies for going a bit off topic but I have a question about U.S. taxes for American citizens living in Taiwan. I am a 52 y/o, married with 2 children. Still living and working in the U.S. but expect to move (retire) to Taiwan within the next 5 years (wife is Taiwanese). U.S. income from pension etc. will be > $50K - $60K per year. I expect income from Taiwanese sources will be minimal. Is tax treatment of U.S-based income of persons living abroad (e.g. deductions, tax rates) the same as living in the U.S. Thanks for any guidance you can provide.
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby Northcoast Surfer » 05 Jan 2012, 02:06

Timabee wrote:My apologies for going a bit off topic but I have a question about U.S. taxes for American citizens living in Taiwan. I am a 52 y/o, married with 2 children. Still living and working in the U.S. but expect to move (retire) to Taiwan within the next 5 years (wife is Taiwanese). U.S. income from pension etc. will be > $50K - $60K per year. I expect income from Taiwanese sources will be minimal. Is tax treatment of U.S-based income of persons living abroad (e.g. deductions, tax rates) the same as living in the U.S. Thanks for any guidance you can provide.

Here's a sexy article which you need to become very familiar with.
Foreign Earned Income Exclusion

Basic gist.

You can exclude up to a certain amount of your foreign earned annual income from paying taxes. However, you can't include any US based income from your pensions, or self-employed income earned in Taiwan with this exclusion. Only income earned in Taiwan from a Taiwanese owned company counts toward the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion.

So, all your income from the US and any self-employed income in Taiwan will be taxed by the US the same as if you were living in the US regardless of the fact that you anticipate you'll be living in Taiwan.

US Internal Revenue Service wrote:If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude from income up to an amount of your foreign earnings that is now adjusted for inflation ($91,400 for 2009, $91,500 for 2010, $92,900 for 2011, $95,100 for 2012). In addition, you can exclude or deduct certain foreign housing amounts.
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby feropont » 11 Apr 2012, 14:00

This 2011 year I lived fully in Taiwan so not USA income, not a Taiwan income either. Wife (taiwanese) earns minimum wage working on the weekend.
What form should I file?
I tried 1040 fill it up on H&R website but at the end system told me "Tax home must be in a foreign country. Delete the form."

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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby jdsmith » 11 Apr 2012, 14:44

feropont wrote:This 2011 year I lived fully in Taiwan so not USA income, not a Taiwan income either. Wife (taiwanese) earns minimum wage working on the weekend.
What form should I file?
I tried 1040 fill it up on H&R website but at the end system told me "Tax home must be in a foreign country. Delete the form."

Thank you

1040 and the 2555-EZ. :thumbsup:
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Re: REMINDER: ALL USA CITIZENS MUST FILE TAXES WITH THE IRS!

Postby panda » 15 Apr 2012, 22:50

jdsmith wrote:Got a question about my tax filings:

I made a mistake and neglected to write down my son's SSN on last years returns, and the IRS sent me a letter telling me I owed some money. Problem easily solved, but on the form, they also said I didn't supply an SSN or ITIN (individual taxpayer Id Number) for my tai tai. Now, I never have since she has neither.

So, the question is do you guys write an ITIN on your tax forms for your spouse, and if so, how'd ya get it?

Thanks.

jdseeks


My attorney told me to write Taiwan person in that blank and thats what I did and they never bothered me about it. That was 10 years ago though.
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