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Re: Water

Postby Isha » 08 Apr 2012, 22:11

Belgian Pie wrote:What are you up to? Are you preparing us to buy into some new herbal MLM products? Doesn't work, water has no memory, it flows wherever it goes ... it will pick up some molecules and dilute them, but that's it. Eventually they'll be gone if enough diluted.

But hey, homeopathy must be one of the most profitable businesses out there, selling water with a memory and make people believe of its healing features. :ponder:


Not up to anything here. Other day I had discussion with someone and the person was right out.. no i can't be.. He is a scientist btw. That made me think that if today's scientists are as close minded as in the past, we are not really making any progress for educating people.
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Re: Water

Postby Mucha Man » 08 Apr 2012, 23:48

Isha wrote:
Belgian Pie wrote:What are you up to? Are you preparing us to buy into some new herbal MLM products? Doesn't work, water has no memory, it flows wherever it goes ... it will pick up some molecules and dilute them, but that's it. Eventually they'll be gone if enough diluted.

But hey, homeopathy must be one of the most profitable businesses out there, selling water with a memory and make people believe of its healing features. :ponder:


Not up to anything here. Other day I had discussion with someone and the person was right out.. no i can't be.. He is a scientist btw. That made me think that if today's scientists are as close minded as in the past, we are not really making any progress for educating people.


No offense but you seem not to have the slightest idea how science works. You are not talking about scientists being open to hypotheticals that could explain phenomenon in a way consistent with what we know about the universe, but being open to complete and utter fantasies that are inconsistent with what we know.

Is there something that doesn't make sense in our world that "water memory" explains or provides a conceptual framework for understanding?
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Re: Water

Postby Isha » 09 Apr 2012, 09:38

Muzha Man wrote:Is there something that doesn't make sense in our world that "water memory" explains or provides a conceptual framework for understanding?


Well, there are plenty of things which doesn't make sense in our world. As far as water-memory theory goes, homeopathy does help some.
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Re: Water

Postby *monkey* » 09 Apr 2012, 10:46

Isha, are you one of those sharks who sell crystals, magnets, "structured water" and all that other horseshit to gullible customers or are you one of the gullible customers?
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Re: Water

Postby finley » 09 Apr 2012, 11:40

Isha wrote:Well, there are plenty of things which doesn't make sense in our world. As far as water-memory theory goes, homeopathy does help some.

There is no evidence whatsoever that homeopathy has benefits beyond what you would expect from the placebo effect. So, no need to explain an effect that doesn't exist.

My sister worked with Edzard Ernst until he was kicked out of Exeter Uni in disgrace; the guy was a bit of a wanker, apparently, but she had access to a great deal of research on alternative therapies in general. There do seem to be a lot of very promising or proven effective non-pharma remedies, but homeopathy most certainly is not one of them.
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Re: Water

Postby Isha » 09 Apr 2012, 16:15

*monkey* wrote:Isha, are you one of those sharks who sell crystals, magnets, "structured water" and all that other horseshit to gullible customers or are you one of the gullible customers?


No, certainly not. I myself do not believe things which I do not experience or can realize. But, I do have an open mind to not discard any theory before I can most certainly say that it's a bull. Water-memory is the same for me. At some level, I know there is something which we could not explain yet. Like for many it doesn't make sense, for me it does.
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Re: Water

Postby Isha » 09 Apr 2012, 16:18

finley wrote:My sister worked with Edzard Ernst until he was kicked out of Exeter Uni in disgrace; the guy was a bit of a wanker, apparently, .


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