Zyxel P-874 to Router

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Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby warpandas » 06 Jul 2012, 01:22

I would like to connect the Zyxel P-874 that Zhonghua Telecom provides to my own router. Does anyone have a guide somewhere or a list of steps on how to disable the DHCP server on the Zyxel and use my own router as the DHCP server?
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby Gary78 » 06 Jul 2012, 09:50

The simple way would be to connect a LAN port of the Zyxel to the WAN port of your own router.
Then setup your own router as you would normally for it to handle routing & DHCP.

If Zhonghua haven't changed the default login for the Zyxel, you should be able to go to 192.168.1.1 and log in with 'user' as the name and password.

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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby warpandas » 06 Jul 2012, 13:12

Gary78 wrote:The simple way would be to connect a LAN port of the Zyxel to the WAN port of your own router.
Then setup your own router as you would normally for it to handle routing & DHCP.

If Zhonghua haven't changed the default login for the Zyxel, you should be able to go to 192.168.1.1 and log in with 'user' as the name and password.


Thanks for replying. The method you described creates conflicts for the DHCP server. You can't just plug in your own router and expect it to work.

Can you clarify which settings you have to turn on/off in the Zyxel interface?
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby Doraemonster » 06 Jul 2012, 14:51

warpandas wrote:Does anyone have a guide somewhere or a list of steps on how to disable the DHCP server on the Zyxel and use my own router as the DHCP server?

I have my own router's WAN interface connected to the CT modem (which, I just checked, is also a P874). The router is set up to connect with PPPoE, and I also use it as the DHCP server for my own local network. The router also has a DHCP client to retrieve the public address for the WAN interface. No problems whatsoever. I did not need to change any DHCP settings on the CT modem.
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby warpandas » 06 Jul 2012, 18:23

Doraemonster wrote:
warpandas wrote:Does anyone have a guide somewhere or a list of steps on how to disable the DHCP server on the Zyxel and use my own router as the DHCP server?

I have my own router's WAN interface connected to the CT modem (which, I just checked, is also a P874). The router is set up to connect with PPPoE, and I also use it as the DHCP server for my own local network. The router also has a DHCP client to retrieve the public address for the WAN interface. No problems whatsoever. I did not need to change any DHCP settings on the CT modem.


Thanks for replying Doraemonster.

Few questions:

1. Do you turn off the PPPoE on the Zyxel?
2. Do you use any of the other LAN ports on the Zyxel?
3. How do you set up a DHCP client on the 2nd router to retrieve the public address for the WAN interface?
4. How do you connect to the Zyxel router's web interface when you are connected through the 2nd router?
5. How do you set up DMZ via the 2nd router and then through the Zyxel router? For example, if I have a computer on the 2nd router that I want DMZ-ed, how does that work?
6. What about a static ip account with CHT Hinet? I can set up PPPoE that's a dynamic IP through the 2nd router but unable to do it with a static IP account.

Would you mind attaching some screenshots of both router's web interface settings to show how to set this up?

Much appreciated
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby Doraemonster » 06 Jul 2012, 22:24

warpandas wrote:1. Do you turn off the PPPoE on the Zyxel?

Yes. In fact I've never turned it off, it was off by default. I use PPPoE on the router.
warpandas wrote:2. Do you use any of the other LAN ports on the Zyxel?

No. (For the sake of completeness, I also don't use CT Wi-Fi or POTS.)
warpandas wrote:3. How do you set up a DHCP client on the 2nd router to retrieve the public address for the WAN interface?

For TP-Link (mine is TL-WR1043ND, but it'll probably be the same for all), there's a separate section for "PPPoE Advanced Settings," where you can choose to "Use IP address specified by ISP." This (somehow counter-intuitively) means you can just type in a static address. If it's not selected, the router will retrieve the address dynamically.
warpandas wrote:4. How do you connect to the Zyxel router's web interface when you are connected through the 2nd router?

That's for TP-Link again. In "Network" > "WAN" you need to set up a "Secondary connection" with "Static IP," for example like that (assuming you did not change the modem's default private IP address from 192.168.1.1):

IP Address: 192.168.1.2 (anything on the same subnet should work)
Network mask: 255.255.255.0

I imagine with some other routers it might be enough to add a static route to 192.168.1.1. I've just tried it with TP-Link, and (without the above settings) it would not work.

My router's local network is 10.0.0.0/24. If the above doesn't work for you, maybe you have a conflict here? The default for many routers seems to be 192.168.1.0/24. You'd be having the same network on both interfaces then.

warpandas wrote:5. How do you set up DMZ via the 2nd router and then through the Zyxel router? For example, if I have a computer on the 2nd router that I want DMZ-ed, how does that work?

I've never used DMZ, but I imagine since I use PPPoE on the router, on the modem it should just work transparently. Your only problem might be that the external IP address changes everytime the PPP connection goes down. You'd need some way to update the DNS entry as soon as it happens. TP-Link supports DynDNS and some others (comexe.cn, no-ip.org), but for more serious use you'd want to reflash to DD-WRT and set up some more custom DNS update script (for example with XName.org). I've never really had the need to do that though. What kind of server are you trying to set up?
warpandas wrote:6. What about a static ip account with CHT Hinet? I can set up PPPoE that's a dynamic IP through the 2nd router but unable to do it with a static IP account.

I've never tried, but I don't think you can do that. The external IP address changes every time you renew the lease. You can try to keep the PPP link up as long as possible, but you need to expect the address will change anyway.
warpandas wrote:Would you mind attaching some screenshots of both router's web interface settings to show how to set this up?

Not at all:

ZyXEL / Advanced setup / WAN (these are all the default settings):
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TP-Link / Network / WAN
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TP-Link / Network / WAN / PPPoE Advanced Settings
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby warpandas » 06 Jul 2012, 22:34

Thank you! Please post a screenshot of your DHCP settings on the Zyxel as well.
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby Doraemonster » 06 Jul 2012, 22:50

You mean this one? It's just off:
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Re: Zyxel P-874 to Router

Postby thirdstring » 22 Oct 2012, 16:20

I apologize for thread-jacking, but you guys know what you're talking about!
I'm trying to change the DNS server for the router (to use OpenDNS 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220), but I cannot get the changes to stick. After I enter the DNS addresses, when I click either button (it's in Chinese), it goes back to 0.0.0.0.
As a side note, how did you get an english interface? Is there a firmware update I can do? I couldn't find anything on the Zyxel website.
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