Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

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Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby jfwrath2000 » 07 Sep 2011, 20:19

Hi everybody,

I frequent the forums quite often I'll try and keep this problem short.

I have worked in my current buxiban for 2 years. I returned to England over the summer as agreed and then returned back to Taiwan to continue my third year at the same buxiban. now,

1) I missed the first week back at the buxiban as I had a family issue back in the Uk which included my grandma's burial, obviously the boss was upset about this and I apologised.

2) When I returned, I head in for a meeting and I was given a new contract which I requested to take home to look at before signing.

3) I didn't agree to some of the contract stipulations and I told my boss this and so I wasn't prepared to enter the lesson the next day without having a stable contract which I could agree to, therefore the next day I stayed at home and considered my options.

4) I contact the school and tell them I would like to resign due to many factors, not just the contract, but the condition of the school, the way they have treated me and other co-workers in the past as well as my continual lack of pay change over the period.

5) The boss was very angry now as I had missed a lesson the next day which they said I was supposed to teach yet I haven't signed a new contract so I wasn't prepared to teach yet, what's the deal with this? Who's in the right?

6) The boss said if I didn't come into he buxiban the next day and teach they would cancel my ARC. Now, I know this is possible (although unexpected) it has now left a bitter taste in my mouth. I really don't want to work there as I can't trust them (as they may now be feeling that about me too), that said, what are my rights in this situation? And, what duration do I have to stay in the country after my ARC is cancelled?

I would like to find another job but how easy is it if my previous school cancel my ARC?

Do you think it is ever right to go back and work in the buxiban after they have threatened to cancel my ARC?

Can you give me some advice on what my next best steps are?

Thanks a lot guys
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby bigduke6 » 07 Sep 2011, 20:40

I would say put a big smile on your face, go to work, apologise to the boss and continue to work there. At the same time look for another school that will sponsor your arc.
Then tell the boss to go "&#@ himself.

I do not really know the actual process involved but would think there is a way. I am sure that someone will post the procedure. Until then suck it up and go to work.

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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby jimipresley » 07 Sep 2011, 20:49

bigduke6 wrote: tell the boss to go "&#@ himself.

Do you think a buxiban boss will understand "And hash at yourself!"?
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby bigduke6 » 07 Sep 2011, 21:07

jimipresley wrote:
bigduke6 wrote: tell the boss to go "&#@ himself.

Do you think a buxiban boss will understand "And hash at yourself!"?


Sorry for the confusion. Tell him to go %$!& himself. :lol:
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby deceasedtrainspotter » 08 Sep 2011, 20:33

jfwrath2000 wrote:The boss said if I didn't come into he buxiban the next day and teach they would cancel my ARC


Some one correct me if I wrong. But I was under the impression that if you have an ARC through your employer your contract is still valid.
Thus OP: If you still have your ARC through your employer your current contract is still valid so your employer has the right to ask you to come to work the next day.
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby ironlady » 09 Sep 2011, 01:34

The length of your ARC should correspond to the length of the contract that was signed. It's possible that the buxiban submitted a contract other than the one the OP signed (naughty buxiban!) just to get the ARC processed.

IF there is no contract, there should be no obligation for the OP to perform services...and performing those services would be illegal...BUT there would likewise be no obligation for the buxiban to continue sponsoring the teacher's ARC (although in theory the ARC should have expired already anyway). Certainly if it hadn't expired, (absent any speculation as to why the buxiban wanted a new contract signed), the buxiban is within its rights to refuse to sponsor an ARC for an employee who unilaterally refuses to show up and work.

Sorry but the whole situation doesn't sound very favorable to the OP, IMHO.
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby zyzzx » 09 Sep 2011, 02:19

jfwrath2000 wrote:4) I contact the school and tell them I would like to resign due to many factors, not just the contract, but the condition of the school, the way they have treated me and other co-workers in the past as well as my continual lack of pay change over the period.

Uh, you told your boss that you want to quit and now you're upset that they're trying to fire you? I don't get it. You didn't expect your ARC to be canceled when you quit?
I agree that it doesn't sound very favorable for you.
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby BigJohn » 09 Sep 2011, 02:36

bigduke6 wrote:I would say put a big smile on your face, go to work, apologise to the boss and continue to work there. At the same time look for another school that will sponsor your arc.
Then tell the boss to go "&#@ himself.

I do not really know the actual process involved but would think there is a way. I am sure that someone will post the procedure. Until then suck it up and go to work.

Remember the boss expects you to act as the Chinese staff and lick his ass as if he was the lord himself.


I agree. Pretend to go along, Mr Humble the hardworking guy. But plot and scheme to find a better situation. That's the Taiwanese way, and it works over here better than the lofty lonely route of ostentatious (Western) moral principle. :2cents:
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby ironlady » 09 Sep 2011, 04:46

Yes. What he said.
Play the game, be very obsequious and bow and scrape a lot (you are in the wrong in the first place here, it seems). This is not "giving in", it is being smart and protecting your own interests by buying yourself time to find another situation.
Not showing up will not further your case any at all. There is no such thing in Taiwan as "the employee takes a day to think about it."
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby tomthorne » 09 Sep 2011, 08:58

ironlady wrote:Yes. What he said.
Play the game, be very obsequious and bow and scrape a lot (you are in the wrong in the first place here, it seems). This is not "giving in", it is being smart and protecting your own interests by buying yourself time to find another situation.
Not showing up will not further your case any at all. There is no such thing in Taiwan as "the employee takes a day to think about it."


I agree, too.

It's just a game. If the OP has any Taiwanese friends then he should ask them what they would do in his situation. That way he'll get a better understanding of the rules of the game over here. Although, of course, they wouldn't have got into his situation in the first place as they definitely wouldn't have carried out points 3 or 4.

As to the OP's main question - I think that you have 10 days or so after an ARC is cancelled to leave the country.
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