Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby jfwrath2000 » 18 Sep 2011, 21:28

Thanks for the advice.

Yes, it is apparent that the rules of the game are different in Taiwan.

It is possible they did send a different (my signature forged?!) contract to the government.

Here's how it worked

1. I started working for them in Aug. 2009 and signed a 1 year contract and received a 1 year ARC

2. In Aug 2010 I received a 2-year ARC BUT I never received a new contract to sign

3. So, between Aug. 2010 and Aug. 2011 I worked without a contract but with a 2 year ARC (which expires Aug. 2012)


What has happened here? Why didn't the school give me a new contract to sign? And how have I got a 2-year ARC?

It seems I have worked illegally? And as an original poster pointed out there seem to be no obligations on both sides (since Aug. 2010)...Yet I have an ARC linked to the school.

Also, who would be in trouble here? And what on Earth is going on?

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby cfimages » 18 Sep 2011, 22:49

If you have an ARC, then you're working legally. Often, if you come to the end of a contract and don't mention any plans to leave that's taken as being more or less a verbal contract. No idea on the legalities of it but it's standard practice in a lot of places AFAIK.

When I used to teach kids, I only ever signed a contract for one year the first time. After that it was all verbal and I ended up working in the same place for a bit over 6 years.
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby Lili » 19 Sep 2011, 00:17

I don't understand why you didn't go to work without the contract signed.

Even if one wants to argue "oh its illegal adn youll get deported" (if thats even true), it seems like basic survival skill to just show up and do the job to keep them happy with you until the contract is sorted out.
Its not like you had anything else to do.
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby jfwrath2000 » 19 Sep 2011, 01:25

I'd rather chew my own hand off than to have worked another day in that place. The better thing I was doing was regaining my sanity, recouping and job hunting and I'm so glad I made that decision to never return even if it did upset the boss. A visa-run holiday isn't the worst thing to happen after quitting a job

If I worked without a contract I wouldn't even be sure the boss would pay me considering they had blackmailed me to go back to work for them in the supposed fear I'd lose my ARC.

It wasn't like my interests were really catered for.

Treat staff well and the loyalty is there otherwise..Que sera, que sera...
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby Lili » 19 Sep 2011, 21:19

jfwrath2000 wrote:I'd rather chew my own hand off than to have worked another day in that place. The better thing I was doing was regaining my sanity, recouping and job hunting and I'm so glad I made that decision to never return even if it did upset the boss. A visa-run holiday isn't the worst thing to happen after quitting a job

If I worked without a contract I wouldn't even be sure the boss would pay me considering they had blackmailed me to go back to work for them in the supposed fear I'd lose my ARC.

It wasn't like my interests were really catered for.

Treat staff well and the loyalty is there otherwise..Que sera, que sera...

So then whats the problem?

If you want to leave, are leaving, and know that this will legally cancel your ARC, and you've decided quitting is worth the hassle, what's the problem?
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Re: Buxiban threatening to cancel my ARC

Postby Abacus » 30 Sep 2011, 22:36

this really isn't the logical way to handle this. I'm guessing that you had plans to leave before this contract issue came up. It's really best to find work before you quit at a place. It's unlikely that you will find a new job and get all of the paperwork in before you have to leave the country. But congrats on leaving this crummy job and good luck finding a new job.
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