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What if Degree Not Recognized?

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What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Blackman » 11 Nov 2014, 04:31

I am asking this question because my parents and 2 friends are interested in teaching in Taiwan, I may be interested later too.

The thing is they all have varying situations, some degrees are small private universities, in country some went abroad and so on and so forth. How can we be sure the degrees will be accepted? All degrees accredited but again the same question arises because there accreditation is not uniform and there are so many accreditation bodies that any one university can't possibly be registered with them all.

None of us have ever been to Taiwan and have very little knowledge of how all this works. I have tried to help them do some research but of course they are still concerned about if their credentials will be accepted once they find a job offer and the school submits to the government. The other option would be to go through a recruiter and get the job offer, sign it and get the ARC before heading overseas. However I have heard of many recommendations against this for various reasons too numerous to get into. (Some funny things with contracts or unscrupulous recruiting practices, either towards the teachers, schools or in obtaining ARCs etc.)

What is the advised course of action here? Of course no one wants to show up only to have their credentials rejected and they all hoped to possibly go together and stay for at least a year or maybe indefinitely. It would be a shame if some of their credentials were accepted and others not. In that case would anyone recommend recruiters?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

PS I have heard something about having them verified by the Taiwan embassy in the country if issue however we are all out of country doing guess what? Right teaching English. Is it ok to go into the Taiwan embassy in the countries in which we reside? (Yes we are in different countries) Not sure if the embassy thing was a real option or something I dreamed up, been reading a lot and it's all starting to blur together. :)
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Tempo Gain » 11 Nov 2014, 14:14

There's a list of recognized universities linked to here, Chinese only on the front end but the lists are in the Roman alphabet. Post here or PM me if you need a hand navigating it.

https://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtop ... 1#p1650881
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Blackman » 11 Nov 2014, 15:17

Tempo Gain wrote:There's a list of recognized universities linked to here, Chinese only on the front end but the lists are in the Roman alphabet. Post here or PM me if you need a hand navigating it.

https://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtop ... 1#p1650881



Thanks!
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Blackman » 13 Nov 2014, 11:13

Tempo Gain wrote:There's a list of recognized universities linked to here, Chinese only on the front end but the lists are in the Roman alphabet. Post here or PM me if you need a hand navigating it.

https://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtop ... 1#p1650881


Also does the degree have to be accredited?

Here is one example of an accredited university someone I know went to but it's not on the list you gave. Is he out of luck?
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Tempo Gain » 13 Nov 2014, 13:46

Accredited by who?
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Blackman » 13 Nov 2014, 14:36

Tempo Gain wrote:Accredited by who?


Sorry I meant to provide the link.

http://usat.ms/en/about/about-usat/
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Tempo Gain » 13 Nov 2014, 15:35

I don't think that list is necessarily the last word. Medical schools on some other islands are listed. I'd contact the MOE directly to see if they recognize this university; there are some numbers at the bottom of that page. It might help, stress on might. Taiwan government agencies are pretty notorious for being ambiguous about things at times unfortunately. If you can get an explicit yes or no it should be pretty clear though. My best guess is going to the embassy wouldn't be a help.

What country's passport would your friend come in on? That might be more important. I have to look to see what the flow is for processing work permit applications, can't recall the name of the exact agency that processes them right now.
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Blackman » 14 Nov 2014, 01:45

Tempo Gain wrote:I don't think that list is necessarily the last word. Medical schools on some other islands are listed. I'd contact the MOE directly to see if they recognize this university; there are some numbers at the bottom of that page. It might help, stress on might. Taiwan government agencies are pretty notorious for being ambiguous about things at times unfortunately. If you can get an explicit yes or no it should be pretty clear though. My best guess is going to the embassy wouldn't be a help.

What country's passport would your friend come in on? That might be more important. I have to look to see what the flow is for processing work permit applications, can't recall the name of the exact agency that processes them right now.


He is a US citizen as are all my friends except one who is Canadian and I am a dual citizen of Canada and US but use my US passport for travel usually.
Could I write MOE in English or would it have to be Chinese?
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Tempo Gain » 14 Nov 2014, 11:23

With those passports my best guess is it will work out, but it pays to make sure. English should be fine, keep it simple and to the point, and be specific that you're asking about an individual with a US or Canadian passport as the case may be.
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Re: What if Degree Not Recognized?

Postby Blackman » 14 Nov 2014, 19:10

Tempo Gain wrote:With those passports my best guess is it will work out, but it pays to make sure. English should be fine, keep it simple and to the point, and be specific that you're asking about an individual with a US or Canadian passport as the case may be.


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