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Re: thanks for the pic Feropont

Postby rk1951 » 11 Apr 2012, 12:30

pommes king wrote:Saterday TIS, Sundaymorning mountainroads sounds like a plan.... IF the rusty bitch is rideable. :cactus:


I wonder if your turd will be ready! TIS sounds good, but no mountain roads for me after that. I am usually done after a few TIS sessions. I will be practicing with my NSR if the weather is nice!

And Jaame! New farrings for the CPI are 5K! That is what I paid. I have a friend who has a sticker business that does carbon fiber stickering. Im going to have my CPI done soon. It is pretty expensive though. About 4K for all 12 farrings. Oh well it will be cool though!
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Back in the game

Postby jaame » 11 Apr 2012, 20:54

So are we talking about this coming Sunday morning for a ride out? Pommes, is your badboy going to be ready by then? No mountain biking for me this weekend anyway, the rear shock on my pushbike shat itself on Sunday. It bottoms out at a mere push now, but hasn't lost any air pressure. I think something must be fucked in the compression circuit. Monarch Plus: don't get one.

Thanks for the info re: the plastics RK. 12 pieces is a lot isn't it? I'm struggling to count 12. Front mudguard, headlight surround, 2 tank panels, 2 side plates, back mudguard. That's 7. What else do you get? Radiator shields? What else? I'm quite keen on the idea of repainting the frame KTM orange in the front triangle. I'd love to get real carbon mudguards. Hopefully your carbon stickers will look cool. I've seen two cars with it done. One looked unreal, one looked shite. Hopefully yours is unreal!

I'd love to see that team racing CPIs. I haven't been to the track for over a year. I would definitely go if I knew there was going to be a CPI class race.

So yes this Sunday, I'll book the time off my family. Provisionally 9am at the Longtan 7-eleven/Hi-Life? (How does a Hi-Life stay in business with a 7-eleven next door? One has to wonder...). YES!
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Re: Back in the game

Postby rk1951 » 11 Apr 2012, 21:18

jaame wrote:So are we talking about this coming Sunday morning for a ride out? Pommes, is your badboy going to be ready by then? No mountain biking for me this weekend anyway, the rear shock on my pushbike shat itself on Sunday. It bottoms out at a mere push now, but hasn't lost any air pressure. I think something must be fucked in the compression circuit. Monarch Plus: don't get one.

Thanks for the info re: the plastics RK. 12 pieces is a lot isn't it? I'm struggling to count 12. Front mudguard, headlight surround, 2 tank panels, 2 side plates, back mudguard. That's 7. What else do you get? Radiator shields? What else? I'm quite keen on the idea of repainting the frame KTM orange in the front triangle. I'd love to get real carbon mudguards. Hopefully your carbon stickers will look cool. I've seen two cars with it done. One looked unreal, one looked shite. Hopefully yours is unreal!

I'd love to see that team racing CPIs. I haven't been to the track for over a year. I would definitely go if I knew there was going to be a CPI class race.

So yes this Sunday, I'll book the time off my family. Provisionally 9am at the Longtan 7-eleven/Hi-Life? (How does a Hi-Life stay in business with a 7-eleven next door? One has to wonder...). YES!


I don't know why I said 12 pieces, I think that was a mistype/brain fart. I think 7 is right! :) Actually I haven't put those extra sets one, they are still in the bag from over a year ago. I asked 2 places about the carbon stickers. One place quoted me 7K and the other 4K. I think I am going to go with the 4K....but that could be a bad idea!

I just called on Pommes King's CPI and it doesn't look like it will be ready by Sunday. I didn't realize this, but he got the same titanium exhaust system as I have and that company doesn't carry those in stock. Once you order one, they make it. So it takes a few weeks to finish.

Beast and I will be out at the track though, but I won't be running my CPI. I will be dialing in my NSR. I have upgraded some things on it and I haven't ridden the track in about 6 months. I have a race coming May 6th, so I need some adjusting/practicing time. You are more than welcome to come out there and say hi though. But, yes I am totally down for a CPI run really soon. Maybe the following weekend will be better.
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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby jaame » 13 Apr 2012, 22:23

So I'll pencil it in for Sunday the 22nd, a rideout for the Zhongli CPI team (us).

I went to Johngli Motorbike today at lunchtime. Thy have a lot of pimp parts but I don't think there's much for the CPI. One thing that really caught my eye was an RPM brake disc. An unashamed copy of the Braking Wave disc, it looks great. $2800 or $3300 for the Cygnus, I might ask if they have one that fits the CPI. I think the diameter is 300-330mm. I am going to take a trip down to Hsinchu one of these days to look at the Wei Lun shop. Not sure if they are even still doing anything for the CPI any more (any idea Tafcoml?). I've been pouring over Ruten of late and there isn't anything on there from Wei Lun. There was quite a bit before. Dogma told me a couple of years ago that Michael the laoban had kind of given up on producing hot-up parts for the CPI because they didn't sell half as many as he thought they would. If only the new head which liberated 33bhp at the wheel, and the ally beam frame, saw the light of day.

I did find one ad which had a few pics of different things, like anodised water pump covers and a cool looking hy-mech clutch assembly. That's something else I want to try out. Really I could do with hitting the track (not the track itself, but the car park) on race day to see what other people have done with their CPIs. I have yet to see one with twin under belly silencers, that's what I really want.
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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby jaame » 13 Apr 2012, 23:01

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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby jaame » 14 Apr 2012, 18:48

http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/d61232011

Scroll to the bottom, click on the side-on photo. How good does that look? Under belly exhaust, ally subframe. Sick as!
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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby dwgcooks » 14 Apr 2012, 22:30

Hey guys, I just bought a new to me 08 SM250. On the ride home it pops out of 1st and 2nd gears. Pops out then back in causing it to lurch would be a better description. I've searched this thread and it seems to be a lot of catastrophic gearbox failures but none with my issue of popping in and out of gear.

So my questions are...
Who in the Taichung area can I take it to get fixed?

How much should it cost?

Anyone ride in the Taichung or Dajia area?

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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby maunaloa » 15 Apr 2012, 03:36

jaame wrote:http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/d61232011

Scroll to the bottom, click on the side-on photo. How good does that look? Under belly exhaust, ally subframe. Sick as!


An example of more money in mods than in the bike's purchase price. Exhibit 1 in "mod acquisition syndrome", aka "silk purse design fabricated with sow's ear".
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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby jaame » 15 Apr 2012, 09:01

I think it would take about $70,000 in mods to make my bike look like I want it to. I doubt I'll ever do it, but it would increase the total spend to about $180,000. Sounds far too much but to get even a five year old Husky or similar with unknown and questionable history is about $320,000. I'd never spend that on a used bike here.

Still the one in that photo certainly looks like you describe, a bit of a mutant. Looks like they could have done a lot of it themselves though, it's no that clean looking, the engineering I mean.

RE: The gearbox. When my bike had less than 1000km on it, it used to jump out of 5th and 6th a bit. Now the only thing it does is allows me to access neutral from 1st or 2nd. Never jumps out of gear though now. It's a MK2, May 2009. 3 years old on Monday actually. Maybe I'll treat her to an oil change... or maybe not.

I don't know who could fix it though. My cam chain is extremely noisy and rattly at about 3000rpm, the worst one I've ever heard. I took it to the official dealer in Taoyuan city and they simply changed the external adjuster hook thingy. It made it a little bit quieter for about half of the ride home. They lack the desire, and in my opinion the skills, to actually strip it down, find the fault and fix it.

The CPI dealer in Hsinchu is actually willing and able to do engine work I believe. Alternatively you could try a race shop, like CSRT in Yingge. Or take it back to the factory yourself, that's in Dali.
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Re: CPI SM250 & related banter

Postby maunaloa » 15 Apr 2012, 11:33

Jaame, by the "shop in Hsinchu" do you mean the one down the street from the TRA station?

CPI changed the graphics for 2012... but are there any substantive changes from the 2008 model, other that better wheel bearing seals?
I used to hold out hope that CPI would move their EFI 300cc thumper (in their scooter) into the 250 SM/SX frame ... I don't think it will happen since they've met Euro 3 standards with that strange scrub-catcher on the bottom of the frame downtube.

CPI has a major advantage over the farmer's bikes for tall riders... enduro seating, no knee and back pain. Butt pain, but an AirHawk cushion will fix that.
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