Buying a New Car

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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby sulavaca » 21 Jul 2011, 22:08

smellybumlove wrote:As for selling my Yeti, its a hard choice but I have to carry alot of stuff, so much that i cant take passangers or leave baby seats in the car, need a bigger boot.
Also I do tons of highway driving and the Yeti is not very good MPG-wise on the highway, so a lower and more powerful car is needed.
Octavia combi is what I am getting.

Reason why somebody will buy mine for 800k, skoda ran out and wont have any till next year, price is 938,000nt new without alloys :roflmao:
Thats a $138,000nt knocked off plus a nice set of wheels thrown in :thumbsup:


You're basically going for the Skoda I've always recommended then, aside from the Superb, which is a bit on the fat side for my liking.
You have lucked out on the price of the new Skoda which is why you can sell yours for more (privately). This isn't to say that European cars hold their value as well as Japanese cars, because on the whole, they don't. You mention in your final sentence that the other way of looking at is 938,000nt minus 138,000nt. That's quite a depreciation for a car less than ten months old and one in the same model year if you look at it like that. Your purchase and sale smellybumlove is not a reflection of how European vehicles fair in price on the used market. There are always deals from time to time which luck out. They don't however count for the majority of sales, and should not be taken as a rough guide to motor purchasing.
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby Captain Stag » 21 Jul 2011, 22:15

I enjoy hearing/reading of people being offered XXXX amount of money for their car as if it was well above expected value. The bottom line is, if these offers are so amazing, why not sell the vehicle for the insane price offered and move on to the next investment? Smelly, have you sold your car or are you hoping for 800k?

llary, why didn't you take the great offer and move on? A 3 or 4 year old Audi is bound to eventually develop some sort of cancer and prove to be a costly repair...or, realistic depreciation will catch up with it....
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby smellybumlove » 21 Jul 2011, 23:51

Captain Stag wrote:I enjoy hearing/reading of people being offered XXXX amount of money for their car as if it was well above expected value. The bottom line is, if these offers are so amazing, why not sell the vehicle for the insane price offered and move on to the next investment? Smelly, have you sold your car or are you hoping for 800k?

llary, why didn't you take the great offer and move on? A 3 or 4 year old Audi is bound to eventually develop some sort of cancer and prove to be a costly repair...or, realistic depreciation will catch up with it....


Just advertised it now, dealer offered under 800k and they told me the last one they sold went for just over that so i should get AT LEAST 800k.
In high demand right now due to the long waiting list and slow delivery, i also have the all important 'rs' steering wheel which i only got because i ordered it about 6 months early...... so technically speaking I have a higher spec.

Its a bit sad really, I was going to remap the car (gets over 180ft-lb of torque at under 2000rpm alot for a 1.2) and keep it until the wheels fell off or i leave the country whichever was sooner.
But all this delivering and highway miles is really showing up the weaknesses of the car, this was never the plan for it, so a octavia combi with its huge boot and bigger engine is more idealy suited now (more boring though).
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby sulavaca » 22 Jul 2011, 09:19

Captain Stag wrote:I enjoy hearing/reading of people being offered XXXX amount of money for their car as if it was well above expected value. The bottom line is, if these offers are so amazing, why not sell the vehicle for the insane price offered and move on to the next investment? Smelly, have you sold your car or are you hoping for 800k?


Well spotted Captain. I was fooled into believing it had been sold already due to grammar:
smellybumlove wrote:Bought my car for 868,000nt selling for 800,000nt........ so i lost 68,000nt in 1 year :roflmao:
depreciation is minimal on the right model euro car (small engine models mostly).


I'll be very interested to hear if the car can be sold for that amount.
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby redwagon » 22 Jul 2011, 09:52

smellybumlove wrote:Its a bit sad really, I was going to remap the car (gets over 180ft-lb of torque at under 2000rpm alot for a 1.2) and keep it until the wheels fell off or i leave the country whichever was sooner.
But all this delivering and highway miles is really showing up the weaknesses of the car, this was never the plan for it, so a octavia combi with its huge boot and bigger engine is more idealy suited now (more boring though).

So you'd have been better off if you'd kept the Teana eh?

Just playing devil's advocate here... :wink:
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby StreetSpec » 22 Jul 2011, 11:20

smellybumlove wrote:Really $9000 do change the gearbox oil of a car with a sealed dry clutch double clutch gearbox :bravo:


both cars I mention don't have DSG gearbox and that price is the quotation from VW garage....obviously you never change your VAG car's gearbox oil in VAG dealer taiwan, so go check yourself....at independent VW garage, it costs about $7000

smellybumlove wrote:But all this delivering and highway miles is really showing up the weaknesses of the car, this was never the plan for it, so a octavia combi with its huge boot and bigger engine is more idealy suited now (more boring though).


hmmm, delivering and highway miles?....so why not get diesel car?
I had a chance to drive a "replacement car" passat CC 2.0tdi bluemotion for 2 days....it's like I don't need to go to gas station, ever :D
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby llary » 22 Jul 2011, 12:23

Captain Stag wrote:I enjoy hearing/reading of people being offered XXXX amount of money for their car as if it was well above expected value. The bottom line is, if these offers are so amazing, why not sell the vehicle for the insane price offered and move on to the next investment? Smelly, have you sold your car or are you hoping for 800k?

llary, why didn't you take the great offer and move on? A 3 or 4 year old Audi is bound to eventually develop some sort of cancer and prove to be a costly repair...or, realistic depreciation will catch up with it....


I nearly did, the owner of the car washing outfit I go to had driven another customer's A3 and really liked it, he knew I had been looking at the Q7 and offered $700k to buy my A3. I said I was not really interested because we were going to sell the WRX and replace it with the A3 as my daily driver. The offer was raised to $1m eventually and in the end it was my wife who stopped the deal because she really likes the car.

Also $1m is a good price but not insane, the lowest price for this model year from private sellers is around $700-800 which is a 50% discount on the price of a new car.

Think about it.. if I sell the car what I am I going to replace it with? I decided not to buy a Q7 or anything else because I think it's a waste of money since the A3 has run perfectly without a single problem. I think it has a lot of life in it yet.
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby tommy525 » 22 Jul 2011, 13:10

The A3 is a better made vehicle anyway. The Q7 is put together in Slovakia. The fuel mileage is also not soo good. The 3.6engine only gets 14 city and 19 freeway. However the new 3.0 engine is a big improvement. I forget what the mileage is but its much closer to the diesel version then the 3.6 was.

Heres a good site for checking vehicle mileage *at least for cars sold in USA*

http://fueleconomy.gov/
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby sulavaca » 22 Jul 2011, 13:28

tommy525 wrote:The A3 is a better made vehicle anyway. The Q7 is put together in Slovakia. The fuel mileage is also not soo good. The 3.6engine only gets 14 city and 19 freeway. However the new 3.0 engine is a big improvement. I forget what the mileage is but its much closer to the diesel version then the 3.6 was.

Heres a good site for checking vehicle mileage *at least for cars sold in USA*

http://fueleconomy.gov/


I'm not sure about the Q7 but generally build quality in Slovakia is much better than German. This is also why the Skoda Octavia is more reliable than both Golf and A3.
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Re: Buying a New Car

Postby smellybumlove » 22 Jul 2011, 14:47

StreetSpec wrote:
smellybumlove wrote:Really $9000 do change the gearbox oil of a car with a sealed dry clutch double clutch gearbox :bravo:


both cars I mention don't have DSG gearbox and that price is the quotation from VW garage....obviously you never change your VAG car's gearbox oil in VAG dealer taiwan, so go check yourself....at independent VW garage, it costs about $7000

smellybumlove wrote:But all this delivering and highway miles is really showing up the weaknesses of the car, this was never the plan for it, so a octavia combi with its huge boot and bigger engine is more idealy suited now (more boring though).


hmmm, delivering and highway miles?....so why not get diesel car?
I had a chance to drive a "replacement car" passat CC 2.0tdi bluemotion for 2 days....it's like I don't need to go to gas station, ever :D



I got offered a deal on the VRS diesel octavia, but quoting jeremy clarkson:
'all the fun and excitement of the petrol VRS....... without the fun and excitement'

Diesels these days just aint no fun, the PD diesels from 5 years ago were a hoot, but then VW decided to adopt the common rail injection and now they feel like a petrol with a narrower torque band and less revs :lol:
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