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Where are we? Province of China?

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Where are we? Province of China?

Postby Taiwan_Student » 22 Dec 2011, 19:25

I really love Forumosa! It helped me with almost all aspects of my life. But, not going to live in China! The survey asked where we were and I really am not sure. There is no Taiwan or Taiwan R.O.C. in the choices. I chose Gambia.
It's closer to Taiwan than China is.
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby Satellite TV » 22 Dec 2011, 19:29

Taiwan_Student wrote:I really love Forumosa! It helped me with almost all aspects of my life. But, not going to live in China! The survey asked where we were and I really am not sure. There is no Taiwan or Taiwan R.O.C. in the choices. I chose Gambia.
It's closer to Taiwan than China is.



I chose China, province of the ROC :D
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby Taiwan_Student » 23 Dec 2011, 10:46

Satellite TV wrote:
Taiwan_Student wrote:I really love Forumosa! It helped me with almost all aspects of my life. But, not going to live in China! The survey asked where we were and I really am not sure. There is no Taiwan or Taiwan R.O.C. in the choices. I chose Gambia.
It's closer to Taiwan than China is.



I chose China, province of the ROC :D


Amen! But they closed the provincial capital a number of years ago, didn't they? Didn't they also have some kind of senate or something that represented the other "occupied" provinces as well? Let's get on the stick and retake the mainland or give it up already.... :D {We need an other smiley shows "charge" or holding pitch forks heading off to war}
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby bismarck » 23 Dec 2011, 14:32

When I saw that I stopped filling in the survey.
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby TainanCowboy » 23 Dec 2011, 15:43

Taiwan.


Its not a mythical "province of china."


Its Taiwan.
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby ChewDawg » 23 Dec 2011, 15:47

I don't know why people are getting their panties in a knot over this. Most people here surely are realists in the sense that they know most of the world recognizes the PRC. At least when people fill out Internet-based forms, they are usually given the choice of Taiwan or China, and the PRC label is not often included (perhaps because it is too long and Internet language on forms strives to be succinct in most cases).

Most blue-supporting Taiwanese would have no problem with China as it does not reference the PRC or ROC--just China. Taiwan, when offered on some applications that aren't official (bank applications, job applications on Internet etc.), is definitely the preferred nomenclature but I can understand why some Internet surveys/applications etc. don't include it.

To me, not filling a survey in because it says "Province of China" seems to be pro-green fanaticism. I'm as pro-Taiwan, pro-Japan-, pro-US as they come, but I realize that most people,including software programmers, may not be fully versed in the nuances of Taiwan-China relations and terminologies as foreigners here are. :D
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby Satellite TV » 23 Dec 2011, 18:45

ChewDawg wrote:To me, not filling a survey in because it says "Province of China" seems to be pro-green fanaticism. I'm as pro-Taiwan, pro-Japan-, pro-US as they come, but I realize that most people,including software programmers, may not be fully versed in the nuances of Taiwan-China relations and terminologies as foreigners here are. :D


No excuse they can google and learn ffs. It's not like they live in the dark ages is it?

I refuse to buy anything that lits Taiwan as a province of China nor fill out any surveys.

For those who are lazy on their survey forms

Taiwan is not a province of China. :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry:
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby Chris » 23 Dec 2011, 22:17

A lot of the companies simply download a country list from ISO and are none the wiser that the term "Taiwan, Province of China" is in there. Quite a few companies have been responsive if informed that the term is offensive to many Taiwanese, and they'll correct it in their software.
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby Mucha Man » 23 Dec 2011, 22:34

True, Chris. But it isn't an accident that ISO has Taiwan as a province of China. It's there because of Chinese pressure which is why it's justifiable to object to the designation.
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Re: Where are we? Province of China?

Postby finley » 23 Dec 2011, 23:24

Chris wrote:A lot of the companies simply download a country list from ISO and are none the wiser that the term "Taiwan, Province of China" is in there. Quite a few companies have been responsive if informed that the term is offensive to many Taiwanese, and they'll correct it in their software.


I've had a lukewarm response to that. Most of them ignore it, one or two write back and say they don't give a rat's todger, and one or two have actually changed it. I recall a Canadian gov't agency did respond positively. Nice.

I usually ask if they can change it to the politically-neutral "Taiwan", without any appendages. I'm guessing the ones that respond negatively have experienced a shitstorm from mouthbreathing mainlanders who insist that Taiwan must be clearly marked as a Province of China.
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