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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby TNT » 10 May 2012, 11:28

In Taiwan do buses, trucks etc use tachographs and is there any law to enforce this?
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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby asiababy » 10 May 2012, 11:36

Yesterday a bus with Korean tourists almost fell in a ravine, more than a dozen hurt.


Icon, my husband said the bus driver in this incident was not licensed. Did you see anything in the news today stating this? (No time to find link today.)
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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby Icon » 10 May 2012, 11:49

asiababy wrote:
Yesterday a bus with Korean tourists almost fell in a ravine, more than a dozen hurt.


Icon, my husband said the bus driver in this incident was not licensed. Did you see anything in the news today stating this? (No time to find link today.)


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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby Taiwan Luthiers » 10 May 2012, 12:02

I don't know about coaches but city buses have governors, they can only get up to a certain speed and the governor keeps it from going any faster.
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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby Super Hans » 10 May 2012, 12:16

Taiwan Luthiers,

In Europe, drivers and companies get seriously hauled over the coals if a tachograph shows that driver regulations regarding rest time has been abused. Sure, drivers will often find a way to get around them and so will trucking companies, but the regulations are far tighter and there is far more government control, I'm not sure how it is in the States.
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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby sandman » 10 May 2012, 12:32

Taiwan Luthiers wrote:I don't know about coaches but city buses have governors, they can only get up to a certain speed and the governor keeps it from going any faster.

Maybe the new ones do. The older ones (which is the only kind I ever seem to get on, just a nice little beeping noise when he goes over 60. Doesn't slow the bus down, though.
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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby Belgian Pie » 10 May 2012, 15:27

I've seen tachographs used in the hospital buses from Cheng Hsin General hospital that shuttle from the MRT station to the hospital.

And according to the paper, long haul trucks need a dashboard camera on when driving. :ponder:

He was also penalized for not turning on the dashboard camera while operating a large truck, a requirement for all truck drivers.
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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby Belgian Pie » 10 May 2012, 15:35

Super Hans wrote:Taiwan Luthiers,

In Europe, drivers and companies get seriously hauled over the coals if a tachograph shows that driver regulations regarding rest time has been abused.
Sure, drivers will often find a way to get around them and so will trucking companies
, but the regulations are far tighter and there is far more government control, I'm not sure how it is in the States.


It used to be like this, tempering with the registration needle or the mechanics, names of drivers etc ... but now they are changing to digital which is way more difficult to temper with because you need to enter your ID number or some form of ID before driving off (put in his personal tachograph card) when starting work. And easier for police to check irregularities, they just put it in a computer and can read out all they need. Plus it can printed out in the vehicle itself as the tachograph has a printer built in.

Plus that the tachograph's and driver's card need to be downloaded at least every three weeks and backed-up, stored for at least a year.

Four different chip cards specify who can access specific DTCO® digital data.

Driver cards save driver activities, events, faults and vehicle changes.
The company card authorises vehicle data to be downloaded from the mass memory.
The control card enables authorities to access data for legal purposes.
The workshop card switches on the calibration function of the DTCO® – and it can also be used as a driver card for testing and inspection purposes.


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Re: Hsuehshan tunnel fire

Postby Battery9 » 10 May 2012, 22:10

Hope it's not off topic, but here are pics of the tunnel fire I was in. I usually hold my breath at every traffic light, and it has taught my lungs to be strong. This is while I was inside the tunnel when all the cars stopped..you can see the smoke at the end of the tunnel..this is just before the explosion.

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this was afterwards. Amazing how quickly the whole tunnel filled up with smoke

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