My wife's thoughts on being married and having children in Taiwan (pt 1)

[tommy525]

The blue collar Asian life in Taiwan. Its not prison but for some its not a lot of fun. Living in dorms, having only one day off. Its not far from Foxconn workership in one of those concentration camp factories probably.

I say give them a lot more freedom or send them all home.

Give them the right to TW citizenship after five years of legal residence.

Taiwan needs young blood, most of these are young men and women who can be a valuable part of the new Taiwan.

Taiwan needs to loosen the shackles of mono-ethnicism.

[superking]

Any parent should do well to heed AmoyMama's advice, but to the parent giving their child the diatribe about how everyone around them is a racist, ignorant hick just think what you are passing on to your child.

this is what I object to in a nutshell. You "operate" with fabricated assumption on which you base you moral advice.

just one sentence about me not knowing how Asians feel in Germany: My wife is Asian.
A question back: do you know anything about the life Asian blue collar workers have in Taiwan?

Whilst I wish for you to not object to the things I write I must accept that this is so. I am sorry if you feel I am cramming advice down your neck, it's not my intention. It is not my intention to be objectionable to you. It is my intention to write about my thoughts. Sometimes they are funny or pithy, sometimes they are dull and flavourless. Maybe this is one of those times. I am in agreement that my assumptions are both fabricated and self operated. I admit to my humanity. And again my advice is not moral, please don't perceive it to be. It is an expression of my current interests.

I know a little of blue collar workers' lives in Taiwan. How is this helpful?

[pgdaddy1]

Back to the topic though:

The mother of my youngest tells me that when she is out and about she doesn't get too many stupid comments, because the foreign father (i.e. me) is not present to draw attention. Any of your Taiwanese SO's say the same thing ?

[headhonchoII]

No live ducks or live birds signs were specifically to prevent the spread of sars and bird flu. That was in 2003, not so long ago. There was nothing amusing about SARS, and it is very logical to target ducks in particular. I think somebody is showing their ignorance here

[austin]

The point about whether kids are born in America is interesting. I happened to be in Garfield Medical Center in Monterey Park, California on a Saturday morning. Apparently, this was 'see the labor and delivery' ward day. For American women? No. There were buses full of women from China arriving, who had been staying at a local 'motel' organized by a 'have an American citizen' guide. After giving birth to an American citizen(who could pave the way for the whole family to emigrate from China), they'd return to the 'motel' for zuo4yue4zi. The women paid cash(nice for the hospital...taxes? what taxes?). That is just one hospital in one town in US.

[Isha]

I happened to be in Garfield Medical Center in Monterey Park, California on a Saturday morning. Apparently, this was 'see the labor and delivery' ward day. For American women? No. There were buses full of women from China arriving, who had been staying at a local 'motel' organized by a 'have an American citizen' guide.

I read about this kind of (multiple) agencies in China. Apparently they fly out pregnant women on visitor visa in their late eighth month or early ninth month of pregnancy to US; let them stay in groups at some cheap place rented specially for this purpose, do not let them roam outside freely, have child there, claim American Residency and then fly them back. It is a whole package. It does not end there. Then parents manage to get false Chinese permanent residential card for the kids so that they won't have to pay higher fee for education for foreigners.

[tommy525]

Its ridiculous. This birthright thing. IN this modern world when a plane can jet you over. Its not like the days of the sailing ships when you risked your life getting somewhere and its not like you can easily get back either.

[sandman]

It does not end there. Then parents manage to get false Chinese permanent residential card for the kids so that they won't have to pay higher fee for education for foreigners.

How is it false? Where are these cards issued. Education for foreigners? Where? In the US or China?

[Icon]

The point about whether kids are born in America is interesting. I happened to be in Garfield Medical Center in Monterey Park, California on a Saturday morning. Apparently, this was 'see the labor and delivery' ward day. For American women? No. There were buses full of women from China arriving, who had been staying at a local 'motel' organized by a 'have an American citizen' guide. After giving birth to an American citizen(who could pave the way for the whole family to emigrate from China), they'd return to the 'motel' for zuo4yue4zi. The women paid cash(nice for the hospital...taxes? what taxes?). That is just one hospital in one town in US.

That is compleely insane. If I remember correctly, airlines are not supposed to fly women so far out in the pregnancy, a group of them would certainly raise a red flag. It is a true conspiracy, big hong baos for everyone involved if it happens.

[sandman]

The point about whether kids are born in America is interesting. I happened to be in Garfield Medical Center in Monterey Park, California on a Saturday morning. Apparently, this was 'see the labor and delivery' ward day. For American women? No. There were buses full of women from China arriving, who had been staying at a local 'motel' organized by a 'have an American citizen' guide. After giving birth to an American citizen(who could pave the way for the whole family to emigrate from China), they'd return to the 'motel' for zuo4yue4zi. The women paid cash(nice for the hospital...taxes? what taxes?). That is just one hospital in one town in US.

That is compleely insane. If I remember correctly, airlines are not supposed to fly women so far out in the pregnancy, a group of them would certainly raise a red flag. It is a true conspiracy, big hong baos for everyone involved if it happens.

If. Austin? Exact dates, please. Garfield Medical center in Monterey Park has no knowledge of "busloads" of Chinese women showing up for show and tell day. When were you there? They seriously want to know. They paid cash? How do you know? They weren't paying tax? How do you know?