Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

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Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby crystaleye » 21 Jun 2012, 01:10

You know, the Taiwanese have always claimed that they are one of the most "warm-hearted" (熱情) people in the world and any foreigner visiting Taiwan wouldn't have any issues with racism and such.

Really? Does such warmheartedness apply to foreigners of every race and creed or do they only apply to foreigners from the richer, better educated parts of the world?

On more than one occasion, I have seen Taiwanese/HKese/Chinese wives or mothers mistreat their indonesian/filipino maids. The Taiwanese even have a nickname for women of such south Asian varieties. They call them "Maria".

Don't let no Taiwanese fool you into thinking that they are "warm-hearted". If anything, the Taiwanese have one of the coldest hearts in the world.

The Taiwanese/Chinese/Hkese would gladly let a stranger die on the streets if it means saving their own skins. Tis the Chinese culture you see, putting oneself first above others.

The word "Conscience" does not exist in Taiwanese/Chinese/HKese dictionaries.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby Confuzius » 21 Jun 2012, 01:17

crystaleye wrote:You know, the Taiwanese have always claimed that they are one of the most "warm-hearted" (熱情) people in the world and any foreigner visiting Taiwan wouldn't have any issues with racism and such.

Really? Does such warmheartedness apply to foreigners of every race and creed or do they only apply to foreigners from the richer, better educated parts of the world?

On more than one occasion, I have seen Taiwanese/HKese/Chinese wives or mothers mistreat their indonesian/filipino maids. The Taiwanese even have a nickname for women of such south Asian varieties. They call them "Maria".

Don't let no Taiwanese fool you into thinking that they are "warm-hearted". If anything, the Taiwanese have one of the coldest hearts in the world.

The Taiwanese/Chinese/Hkese would gladly let a stranger die on the streets if it means saving their own skins. Tis the Chinese culture you see, putting oneself first above others.

The word "Conscience" does not exist in Taiwanese/Chinese/HKese dictionaries.


Sounds like you described around 95% of people in the world from all cultures.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby Abacus » 21 Jun 2012, 01:22

There are good people and bad people in every culture.

I don't know what horrible things happened to you in taiwan but you clearly had an awful experience based on the threads that you start.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby tommy525 » 21 Jun 2012, 01:23

troll much?

I think its all down to the individual. There are good and evil people of all races. None more then the other.

Ones experiences in a place may vary. Taiwanese happen to be kinder to white people then South East Asians on the whole. So you luck you if you are white, if you are south east Asian , not.

So ones own experiences may vary.

The USA is not a melting pot of races but rather a place where a lot of races live together. Not always in harmony.

In some neighborhoods ,you are better off if white, others if laotian, others if phillippino, etc

Do you have to be that naive? Its not a lovely dovely world we live in. There is massive evil.

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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby jimipresley » 21 Jun 2012, 01:26

Don't feed the trolls, tommy! :no-no:
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby crystaleye » 21 Jun 2012, 01:36

tommy525 wrote:troll much?

I think its all down to the individual. There are good and evil people of all races. None more then the other.

Ones experiences in a place may vary. Taiwanese happen to be kinder to white people then South East Asians on the whole. So you luck you if you are white, if you are south east Asian , not.

So ones own experiences may vary.

The USA is not a melting pot of races but rather a place where a lot of races live together. Not always in harmony.

In some neighborhoods ,you are better off if white, others if laotian, others if phillippino, etc

Do you have to be that naive? Its not a lovely dovely world we live in. There is massive evil.


all I am saying is the taiwanese version of "warm-heartedness" (熱情) only apply if they can gain certain advantages from someone..

this has been the Chinese Way all along and with the Taiwanese sharing the same blood as the Chinese, how can anyone expect the Taiwanese to be any different from the Chinese?

warm-heartedness my arse.. the damn Chinese/Taiwanese/Hkese are some of the coldest, most mercenary people on the face of this planet
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby tommy525 » 21 Jun 2012, 01:49

ya ya, got one up the butt did ya?

(oops not supposed to be feedin trolls, sorry pres)
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby Confuzius » 21 Jun 2012, 09:14

tommy525 wrote:ya ya, got one up the butt did ya?

(oops not supposed to be feedin trolls, sorry pres)


guess his poop shoot was clogged by taiwanese sausage!
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby Tigerman » 21 Jun 2012, 10:30

crystaleye wrote:this has been the Chinese Way all along and with the Taiwanese sharing the same blood as the Chinese, how can anyone expect the Taiwanese to be any different from the Chinese?


IF what you say is true to any extent, then surely the behavior you complain of is a function of culture rather than of blood? Your statement above is racist. I don't believe that a person's behavior is a function of his/her race.

Of course, I don't believe that anyone person fits completely into any particular generalization, either. Lots of shades of gray, rather.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese have a Conscience?

Postby Tigerman » 21 Jun 2012, 10:35

And folks, give the OP a break.

He/she is obviously generalizing, to a fault.

But, it seems clear that his generalization is in response to 1) the fact that some Taiwanese people do seem to state somewhat often that the Taiwanese (as an entire people) are especially warm-hearted to foreign people and 2) the OP's observation that some types of foreign people in Taiwan are often not treated with this oft claimed warm-heartedness.
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