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GC Rider wrote:RickRooney wrote:Its mad. Ive never noticed any problems with trash in the other countrys I have been in but here its just a mess. Ibhave seen overflowing bins on some occasions too. I don't know why you would even bother to try to put trash in a bin thats already full.. anyway there are numerous ways to deal with it but I don't really see it changing. Most people seem ok with this dysfunctional trash system. For me the best i can hope for is to move to a somewhat new apartment in the future where the security guard can take out my trash.
The solution to the garbage problem must be to avoid creating unnecessary garbage in the first place. That's a lesson not only the Taiwanese must learn first. Same applies to everyone else on this planet because the problem of too much garbage is just as bad in the West, if not worse. It's just not always as apparent as it is here. Moving to a modern apartment complex where trash is being taken care of by other people will only make life easier for a few people, but the underlying problem is still there. It's actually the same kind of "out of sight, out of mind" mentality that we're accusing the locals of.
Here's an easy way to help remind yourself to avoid garbage. It's called the "4Rs" rule: Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle
We should all use it.
(BTW, I heard about the "4Rs" first from locals in the Society of Wilderness. I've seen firsthand that there are indeed many Taiwanese who care a lot about environmental issues and are doing something about it, but more people need to get involved.)
RickRooney wrote:Its mad. Ive never noticed any problems with trash in the other countrys I have been in but here its just a mess.
spaint wrote:RickRooney wrote:Its mad. Ive never noticed any problems with trash in the other countrys I have been in but here its just a mess.
Go to the UK, get off the road and walk around the countryside, especially near smaller villages. You'll find trash everywhere - the problem is not just fly tipping but also all the local thugs who wander off down to the river with a plastic carrier bag full of booze and then toss it all in the reeds when they're done. The problem is people.
I'm not sure you can actually force people to be clean; there'll always be an element that doesn't give a shit and actively enjoys fucking it up for everyone. At that point you need to consider solutions closer to the source. I'd start by reducing the amount of plastic waste that everything seems to generate (of the 3Rs - not including Repair - the most effective is to Reduce - they're in order). Plastic is the absolute worst: it doesn't rot, it doesn't rust, it doesn't erode, and it doesn't go away. Ever. It just gets smaller and smaller. Go to a beach - any beach, almost anywhere in the world - if you want proof of plastic being a scourge on the planet.
RickRooney wrote:Public bins wont eliminate littering sure, but it will help. Its a basic convinance that should come with living in a developed country, I know nobody cares, least of all taiwanese but it gets on my nerves.
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