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Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

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Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby tango42 » 20 Nov 2015, 06:43

Sad... the children are getting abused more than the stray dogs who have a nice safe home to go to our at least someone that finds them and feeds them.
http://m.focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201511180035.aspx

Also a bit troubling that all the money that is spent on stray dogs isn't immediately moved to help abused children.

But hey people do what they do that makes him feel good.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby Ermintrude » 20 Nov 2015, 07:58

Well, we all do what we can, charity-wise. There's always someone who needs money more, if you choose to look at it that way. I'm going to a thing for a kids' charity who are looking for $$$ for hearing aids which you could argue is a lot less important than protecting kids from violence. Cats aren't more important that children but they're still important. Give money to both if you can afford it.

It's frustrating when you see how fucked in the head people are and that we can't fix it, more than a tiny bit.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby hansioux » 20 Nov 2015, 09:35

Hit as in thinking they are disciplining the kids or just whaling on them as demented psychos?

Not that I support beating as a disciplinary method, but many Taiwanese still believe in it, and as long as it is measured and controlled, like "hey, you've done this bad thing, I'm gonna slap your hand once, if you do it again, I'm gonna slap your hand twice," it shouldn't be considered abusive, as opposed to Homer Simpson's "why you little! I'm gonna beat the crap out of you," situation.

Speaking as someone who had a teacher who thought biting my arm and sticking a pen into my arm are some form of punishment.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby Steve4nLanguage » 20 Nov 2015, 09:56

hansioux wrote:Speaking as someone who had a teacher who thought biting my arm and sticking a pen into my arm are some form of punishment.

WTF?! :eek:
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby hansioux » 20 Nov 2015, 10:18

Steve4nLanguage wrote:
hansioux wrote:Speaking as someone who had a teacher who thought biting my arm and sticking a pen into my arm are some form of punishment.

WTF?! :eek:


My parents would beat me with a stick as punishment, in a measured controlled manner. That particular teacher was a little bit nuts. She would beat us children like no body's business. Once she used a metal stir-frying spatula to whale on a classmate of mine, and the spatula broke. She subsequently demanded him to pay and replace her spatula (which he did).

On a side note, that classmate's nickname was Tank, cause he's built like a frigging tank.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby Icon » 20 Nov 2015, 10:34

That some families do treat the kids like dogs in the sense of keeping them in a cage and then complaining when they misbehave when they take them out because they never taught them how to behave properly... I sadly agree. That is why most abuse cases happen on summer break/New Year. Families get together... and can't stand it. Basically, parents do not know how to parent, let kids go wild until they -parents- break down and start hitting. Not to mention the ever popular powerless parents abused at work and abused by their own families who take it on their own kids as the only ones weaker than themselves.

Since kids are considered private business, there is little government support -ie. money spent- on stuff similar to our child services or social workers. Hence, abused kids will be taken back to the abuse situations, and abuse cases are ignored by the police as obsolete laws and dinosaur judges combine.

Private investments in shelters is quite limited by what they can legally do. There is fantastic work done by a few organizations out there, but mostly is under the radar as these things bring a lot of face loss and hence to help the kids is very difficult. It is not just a matter of being conscious enough to help, but also being able to help legally.

While in other places like in the ol country teachers are encouraged to speak up and defend their kids, and are trained to spot signs of physical/sexual abuse and even drug use, here the motto is do not ask, study for exams, if a child fails is because he is lazy and must be beaten not because they suffer trauma at home and/or have little support. There is a stigma over single parent households and those kids are normally stigmatized and left behind in the rat race towards exams.

From OPs statement is as if he resents the help being given to stray animals. Sure, it is a lot easier to pick a mange infested flea bag skin and bones limbs missing doggie from the street. A bath and a warm meal perform a miracle of new life. If you think there is opposition against having a stray shelter in the neighborhood, you should see an average neighborhood's reaction to an AIDs children shelter or abused kids halfway home. Many hurdles are faced when trying to legally support that with funds.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby ranlee » 20 Nov 2015, 10:46

hansioux wrote:Speaking as someone who had a teacher who thought biting my arm and sticking a pen into my arm are some form of punishment.


What?! Biting you?

I mean, I've heard of one bamboo stick slap for every deducted point from 100, but biting? If I knew it'd be coming I'd probably sprinkle black pepper on the area of bite the morning of.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby kelake » 20 Nov 2015, 13:02

hansioux wrote:Hit as in thinking they are disciplining the kids or just whaling on them as demented psychos?

Not that I support beating as a disciplinary method, but many Taiwanese still believe in it, and as long as it is measured and controlled, like "hey, you've done this bad thing, I'm gonna slap your hand once, if you do it again, I'm gonna slap your hand twice," it shouldn't be considered abusive, as opposed to Homer Simpson's "why you little! I'm gonna beat the crap out of you," situation.

Speaking as someone who had a teacher who thought biting my arm and sticking a pen into my arm are some form of punishment.


In my high school 1 teacher would throw things at you if you kept screwing up. It hurt. In elementary their was of course "the strap", where repeat offenders who leave a room with dark red marks on their hands. It worked for most.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby Greikos » 22 Nov 2015, 21:40

A writing prompt asking to explain a time of sadness: all of them turned in assignments mentioning family abuse, the lack of love from their parents, and just a general misunderstanding of why they were being struck. Needless to say, I felt pretty depressed that day after reading them.
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Re: Some 31.4 percent of elementary and junior high school students in Taiwan have been hit by family members,

Postby Chris » 22 Nov 2015, 22:11

What does "hit" include? An open-handed swat on a clothed behind (spanking), or more serious stuff like closed-fist hits, or beatings with some kind of object (sticks, belts, etc.)?
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