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Brawl @ the Xinzhu Pig & Whistle - 7 Foreigners injured

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Postby Feiren » 09 Jun 2004, 18:19

Agree with DB.

Not sure what you mean by 'AIF'. AIT is the American Institute in Taiwan. They take an interest (somtimes) when bad things happen to Americans in Taiwan. Their website is www.ait.org.tw.

You might also mean the foreign affairs police. Every city has them. In theory they speak English and are supposed to be looking out for you and your special needs. You should defintely report both these incidents to them. The number is 03-5224168.
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Help from the AIT?

Postby klaxon » 09 Jun 2004, 22:54

Feiren wrote:AIT is the American Institute in Taiwan. They take an interest (somtimes) when bad things happen to Americans in Taiwan.


"Sometimes" usually means when big shot American residents get in trouble. I recall an incident in the late 90s when a group of American teenagers got in trouble with law (stealing scooters, or maybe carrying weapons ... does anyone remember?) including the child of an AIT employee. AIT officers were down at the police station the next morning -- along with someone from Taiwan's Foreign Affairs Ministry -- to put pressure on the police.

If, however, you are an ordinary non-AIT relative or non-corporate big shot, the AIT is reluctant to get involved. I have never known of any other "ordinary" American in a bar fight, visa problem, or other legal snafu who was offered help by the AIT. IMHO They would rather stay ensconsed in their fortress, do the minimum of required consular duties, attend the occaisional cocktail party with local elites, and hope for a good posting after Taipei, than actually help ordinary citizens in need.
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Postby Screaming Jesus » 10 Jun 2004, 08:21

AIT represents the interests of America (as defined by the U.S. political party currently in power, of course) in Taiwan--not individual Americans who happen to live here. So they really only care about you if you're an expat type, although if you get arrested or something they're supposed to pop by for appearance's sake.
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Postby aaronlsp » 10 Jun 2004, 13:56

There were really only about six "main" expats that were involved in the Pig and Whistle attack: 3 Canadians and 3 South Africans. Two Canadians and one South African were injured and were treated in the ER in a Hsinchu hospital.

Are there any groups or organizations for Canadians around that could be of use? Also, as stated in an earlier post, if anyone knows of any magazine or newspaper that may be interested in hearing about this story then I would be more than happy to write something for them.
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Postby Durins Bane » 10 Jun 2004, 14:18

aaronlsp wrote:There were really only about six "main" expats that were involved in the Pig and Whistle attack: 3 Canadians and 3 South Africans. Two Canadians and one South African were injured and were treated in the ER in a Hsinchu (Xinzhu) hospital.

Are there any groups or organizations for Canadians around that could be of use? Also, as stated in an earlier post, if anyone knows of any magazine or newspaper that may be interested in hearing about this story then I would be more than happy to write something for them.


It was a bar fight......I'm sorry that it happened but it isn't exactly unique.
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