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Brawl @ the Xinzhu Pig & Whistle - 7 Foreigners injured

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Postby lane119 (aka Cola) » 23 May 2004, 19:36

It will be in APPLE DAILY tomorrow morning. Photos and all.
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Postby almas john » 23 May 2004, 19:47

Durin's Bane
Size or sex doesn't matter, it is technique.


Then why do martial arts have sex/weight divisions?
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Postby Mr Jones » 23 May 2004, 20:07

Obviously when your talking about trained Ma and athletes sex and weight make a difference, But if you put a trained/experienced women against an untrained man the story could be different same goes for men. From my experience it is the fight in the dog not the dog in the fight. Just because a guy weighs more and is stronger than his opponent does not mean he will win. To the contrary most big guys, myself being smaller than getting bigger relize that you have a less chance of getting in a fight when your bigger so there is less chance of having any experience in a physical confrontation.
At the end of the day fighting proves nothing and usually is just a pissing contest :D
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Postby Tigerman » 23 May 2004, 21:50

Mr Jones wrote:At the end of the day fighting proves nothing and usually is just a pissing contest :D


When one fights in self defense, it isn't about proving anything.
As it is, we seem to regard it as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has taken one side or the other. We regard it (in other words) as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has contrived to reach the object of his reasoning. We call a man a bigot or a slave of dogma because he is a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end.

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Postby Tigerman » 23 May 2004, 21:54

almas john wrote:Durin's Bane
Size or sex doesn't matter, it is technique.


Then why do martial arts have sex/weight divisions?


Well, of course size, weight and sex can be an advantage or disadvantage. I think DB was probably referring to the fact that in a real fight, where there are no referees, a smaller person can defeat a larger person... i.e., size and sex are not the only determiners in a real fight.

I've said this before... the great predators of the sea and land do not attempt to take on those which they believe might harm them. Great Whites and Lions always target the sick, hurt, young or old.

You get in a fight, you should be looking to hurt the other person... and hurt them badly. Once a bully knows you are intent on harming him badly, they almost always back off.
As it is, we seem to regard it as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has taken one side or the other. We regard it (in other words) as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has contrived to reach the object of his reasoning. We call a man a bigot or a slave of dogma because he is a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end.

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Postby politbureau » 23 May 2004, 23:06

Tigerman,

In Taiwan, if someone comes at you with a bat and you're unarmed and you rope them and kill them, what should your next step be?
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Postby kelake » 23 May 2004, 23:30

This is a horrible thing to happen. It especially hits home since I live so close to that pub.

Makes me wonder just how safe this neighbourhood is and if it's safe for my wife to be out walking with our daughter. I mean Hsinchu is not the safest place to walk anyway since people drive with utter disregard for anyone , even themselves. But I never considered it a place to be concerned about getting mugged or robbed. If something ever happened to my wife or my baby and the police showed their usual incompetence, I'm not sure what I would do.

I've lived in Taiwan for 6 years now but I at a loss. What do gangsters look like?
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Postby rassie » 23 May 2004, 23:51

The same thing happened in Taichung about 4 or 5 months ago.The name of the place was Soundgarden or something,Im not sure.
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Postby lane119 (aka Cola) » 23 May 2004, 23:56

My guess is that the violence last night was not random, but that there was some provocation, maybe due to miscues or miscommunication or cross cultural misunderstands, or fuzzy drunkenness, amphetamine highs, but there must have been ''something'' to set it off.

We will find out tomorrow when Apple Daily dishes the dirt. It always a girl, some trouble with a girl. Watch!
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Postby Marty » 24 May 2004, 00:02

What is this "apply daily" many of you speak of?
and...
All us foreign devils should form our own mafia and...you know. :cool:
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