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Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby apple81 » 17 Mar 2009, 20:15

Hi All,

I have been applying to schools in Northern Taiwan in the hopes of becoming an ESL Teacher. I was aiming for Taipei City or Taipei County (I have friends there), however I've found many job opportunities in Taoyuan County.

Can anyone who is familiar with Taoyuan County or anyone who lives there, let me know what life is like there in comparison to Taipei City? How far it is from Taipei? How easy is it to get around via transit (I don't plan to use a scooter)?

My friends are relatively new to Taiwan as well, so they aren't familiar with Taoyuan.

I would prefer somewhere more urbanized, and I don't want to commit to anything I may dislike, especially for a year.

Thx in advance :cool:
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby Battery9 » 17 Mar 2009, 20:28

I have a bunch of friends living in Taoyuan and all they complain about is how gross it is. Nothing much to do etc. You take the train to get to Taipei.....but, most of them have lived there forever...so there must be something there keeping them from moving to Taipei. Hmmmm....
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby Feiren » 17 Mar 2009, 20:41

Taoyuan County has been Taiwan's fastest growing county for almost a decade now. That's why there are many families there and thus more English teaching jobs.

Taoyuan is heavily working class and the rapid development there has come at a considerable cost to the quality of life. Zhongli and Taoyuan are both absolute pits in my opinion. The Yangmei area is nice though as is the Longtan area.

There are far fewer foreign-oriented businesses than in Taipei City or even Taipei County. Public transportation is very poor. You are going to have to ride a scooter or drive there to get around. It's cold and windy in the winter.

On the plus side, there are jobs and the cost of living is lower Taipei. I have a few friends out there who enjoy the nitty gritty hardcore Taiwanese/Hakka working class culture. The betel nut girls are of high quality.

In sum, it's the real Taiwan.
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby Deuce Dropper » 17 Mar 2009, 20:51

you're close to the airport if you need to do a runner.
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby apple81 » 17 Mar 2009, 21:03

Thanks for your replies!

Hmm...from the sounds of it, I don't think Taoyuan is somewhere I'd enjoy.

Particularly the public transit part, since I don't think I'd be getting a scooter (I've always relied on public transit in Toronto and have rarely driven here). I really want a location that is public transit friendly.

I don't know how picky I can be at this point however, because many recruiters are telling me how difficult finding a teaching job in Taipei is at the moment. I don't see many job postings for Taipei locations online.
Not sure if recruiters are trying to push more rural locations on me because I'm Asian? Many of them have continued to reiterate that because I'm not white I won't find a job in Taipei easily and keep pushing Southern Taiwanese locations on me (which I am not interested in).

I was planning on going to Taipei and just hitting the streets, handing out resumes and interviewing at any Cram Schools I come across. My friends tell me that I shouldn't have a hard time finding a job in Taipei, but I don't know if they're just being a little TOO optimistic? I've read more than enough posts to know that the ESL Job Market is tough right now...

I'll be in Taiwan as of mid-April, and I realize that it's the middle of a semester...but, I'm hoping to get lucky and find full-time work.
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby thelaowai » 17 Mar 2009, 21:19

While there's no MRT in Taoyuan, public transport is not a problem. Bus lines generally run 4 or 5 buses per hour, and taxi rates are reasonable. There are plenty of department stores. If you need an ex-pat night life, Taoyuan is not the place for you. Taoyuan also lacks the art centers and museums found in Taipei. Whichever place you land, get help to locate an apartment that suits you. Rent is lower in Taoyuan, and maybe the overall slightly lower cost of living in TY would help you save money.
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby Buttercup » 17 Mar 2009, 21:29

apple81 wrote:.

I don't know how picky I can be at this point however, because many recruiters are telling me how difficult finding a teaching job in Taipei is at the moment. I don't see many job postings for Taipei locations online.

Not sure if recruiters are trying to push more rural locations on me because I'm Asian? Many of them have continued to reiterate that because I'm not white I won't find a job in Taipei easily and keep pushing Southern Taiwanese locations on me (which I am not interested in).


That may have some bearing, but to be honest, they always try and put newbs in Taoyuan, Jiayi, and such.

It depends what you like. I don't even like living outside of Xinyi district. MRT and suburban peasants get on my nerves, priddy hills or no.

In Taipei, there is always going to be more competition for jobs.
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby banana smoothie » 18 Mar 2009, 00:09

I live in Taoyuan and have been here for 2 years now. Luckily, I'm on the Linkou border, just across the street from Taipei County, and therefore a quick bus ride to Taipei. There is nothing of any interest at all to see or do in Taoyuan. It's a dump. God knows what sort of mental state any foreigner is in who tells you that Taoyuan is a splendid place to come and relocate to . It is NOT.
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby TheLostSwede » 18 Mar 2009, 01:09

:roflmao:
I guess I lived in a different part of Taoyuan than you lot then (and did for over a year), as it's not a pit, nor is it most of what you lot have described it as.
Sure, it's not Taipei or Kaoshiung (Gaoxiong), but it's a decent enough place and seems to be getting better.
Yes, there aren't loads of night clubs or party places, but there are other things you can do there on a weekend.
If you're into sports and outdoors stuff, it's a decent place, there's even a Go-Kart track there, although I never got around to trying it out, as they just finished it off as we moved back to Taipei. And no, we didn't leave because we didn't like it there, my girlfriend works in Taipei and the fuel prices went up like crazy at the time, so we decided to move.
Anyhow, there are plenty of good places to eat there and enough places to shop western things to survive if you can't make the shift to live off the local stuff.
I think the best Singaporean restaurant in Taiwan is in Taoyuan, although can't say I've seen a lot of other Singaporean restaurants on the island.
There's also a fantastic fruit market there with a great selection and good prices.
Public swimming pools are also easy to get to and you could get a bicycle, as the place isn't quite as crowded in terms of traffic as Taipei. There are also some nice parks there (at least in the area where I lived) and there's a local IKEA (which was a boon for me).
I'm sure there are some nasty parts of the town too, but I didn't go to those places.
For your reference, I was living in western Taoyuan City, not too far from the number 1 highway.
To get to Taipei you can either take the slow poke train from the main train station, or the high-speed rail, but that train station is out in the sticks, although there's supposedly a shuttle bus that goes there, but it didn't go past where I lived. You're stuck with using bus otherwise, although most of the big supermarkets have free shuttle buses, which might come in handy and Taxi isn't that expensive in Taiwan.
Some Canadian guy opened up a Pizza place there a little while ago (haven't visited it, as it too happened around the time we left) and Debbie's is a great little diner for weekend brunch.
Yes, it's not Taipei and you're going to want a mate or two that lets you use their sofa on the weekends if you want to party in Taipei, as that's the biggest downer in Taoyuan. You'll also want to head into Taipei from time to time to get some stuff you can't get in Taoyuan.
Also, one good thing is that you can either get a bigger place for the same rent money, or a cheaper place compared to Taipei.
Ok, the part about the beetle nut girls is actually true...
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Re: Tell Me About Taoyuan Pls?

Postby maunaloa » 18 Mar 2009, 02:35

Any place close to an HSR shuttle bus stop, anywhere in the 'wan, is OK. How can I say this without qualification? Trust me. HSR is your magic carpet.
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