GuyInTaiwan wrote:Craig: There are three options:
1. The government steals from some people and gives others a free pass.
2. The government pretends everyone is paying their way, but really steals more from some people and gives others more of a free pass.
3. The government doesn't steal from anyone or give anyone a free pass because the government minds its own bloody business.
Where do you stand? Freedom or theft?
See what I did there in defining the terms so I look "good" and you look "evil"? Isn't this game called "Snap"?
johnny138 wrote:So it's death panels here we come.
GuyInTaiwan wrote:... So again, which side are you on, the side that favours freedom ir theft?
Gao Bohan wrote:Guy,
CraigTPE's point is that there is a fundamental problem in the American health care system with only a limited number of solutions. The problem is that some 50 million Americans do not have health insurance, and yet will almost inevitably end up at a hospital at some point in their life. The law requires hospitals to screen and stabilize all patients with emergency conditions, and yet without insurance most patients cannot afford the treatment they receive. Health care is a service in very high demand, meaning that the majority of the costs will be passed on to other consumers. Meanwhile, the uninsured patients go bankrupt, and are worse off than if they had been able to get their conditions treated earlier on. Nobody really "wins".
The reality is that "letting them die in the streets" isn't an option even if the law requiring hospitals to treat emergency condition patients were repealed. Hospitals were treating emergency patients before the law passed in 1986. The effects of that law are unclear. The real choices aren't let them die in the streets or mandate the purchase of health insurance. The choices are to ignore the problem or come up with a solution. At least the Democrats took action, rather than sit around navel-gazing and making vague promises about an even cloudier theoretical solution.
Mucha Man wrote:GuyInTaiwan wrote:... So again, which side are you on, the side that favours freedom ir theft?
Personally I side with theft. I've seen freedom: it looks like Somalia. I've seen theft as you put it. It looks like Norway.
Chris wrote:Taxation is not theft.