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Re: My tram experience woman arrested

Postby finley » 06 Jun 2012, 11:51

DB, the thing about stuff like that - the murderers in the video, and the nutcases with the banners - is that they're just common-or-garden thugs using religion as a cover for their thuggery. They're no more religious than were the Spanish conquistadores who laid waste to South America, or the leaders of the Inquisitions who went around torturing and killing, or Joseph Kony of the LRA. There's this in the article:

Finally, a word on the "prayers" or supplications to Allah made by the Muslim executioners in the video: these are standard and formulaic.


Although the writer is making a different point, this also implies that no faith in God is involved, no higher aspirations or spirituality. What we're seeing here is just a cult, reinforced by brainwashing and rote memorization/repetition of nonsensical rules and phrases. It's as human and mundane as Nazism (yay - I did my first reductio ad Hitlerum!). Mr Okasha (according to the article) apparently says something similar.

As GiT said above, there should be no discrimination regarding this kind of thing. Violence and murder are crimes in all civilised countries, and should be tried and punished without any reference to the reason (with the exception of self-defence) or to the perpetrator's beliefs. The law must be blind. Here's General Napier sorting out the Indians (which, it should be stressed, is something Indian leaders had attempted to do themselves, without any success):

You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.


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Re: My tram experience woman arrested

Postby Chris » 06 Jun 2012, 12:17

I do have misgivings about her conviction, because I'm a big supporter of free speech.

But the bitch sure deserved it.
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Re: My tram experience woman arrested

Postby housecat » 06 Jun 2012, 12:27

What is a "tram experience woman," and are you liable for her actions if she's arrested?

Grammar. It saves confusion.
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Re: My tram experience woman arrested

Postby Tigerman » 06 Jun 2012, 15:45

Chris wrote:I do have misgivings about her conviction, because I'm a big supporter of free speech.

But the bitch sure deserved it.


How can you on one hand have misgivings about the bitch's conviction, while on the other hand believe that the bitch deserved her conviction? :ponder: :s
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Re: My tram experience woman arrested

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 06 Jun 2012, 15:48

Tigerman wrote:
Chris wrote:I do have misgivings about her conviction, because I'm a big supporter of free speech.

But the bitch sure deserved it.


How can you on one hand have misgivings about the bitch's conviction, while on the other hand believe that the bitch deserved her conviction? :ponder: :s


I think that's a little unfair. Didn't he write that he was a big supporter of free speech? That's enough, isn't it?
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