Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

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Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Homey » 21 May 2012, 03:05

Interesting development regarding the RNC rules.

http://www.fox19.com/story/18133202/rea ... und-at-all

Ron Paul would win the popular vote over Romney in my opinion, now it looks like he may have a chance with the delegate system.
Why not???

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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Deuce Dropper » 21 May 2012, 11:18

Homey wrote:
Ron Paul would win the popular vote over Romney in my opinion


opinions like this seriously invalidate your opinion.
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Homey » 21 May 2012, 11:56

The common man with half a clue is fed up and wants a big change in how things are done. The uneducated masses that get spoon fed from fox news are surely brainwashed by Romney. The numbers of people showing up at Ron Paul events is often way more than at Romney shindigs. Both Romney and Obama just offer more of the same crap and I think that finally people are pissed off enough to vote for major change. Sadly, it doesn't matter, we go through this silly delegate system and then the electoral college scam.

I would personally welcome a move to the popular vote. No rules to have lawyers argue over, no bs, just a simple popular vote.
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Jaboney » 21 May 2012, 12:14

You're advocating for a straight up popular vote, but egging on Paul's backdoor delegate gambit.
How... aside from pleading 'necessity and ignorance of the masses'... do you justify that?
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Homey » 21 May 2012, 12:25

Just showing a link to the latest developments. Just because it's not what I would choose, this is the current system. Within this system, it looks like delegates might be unbound and free to vote for who they want.
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Tigerman » 21 May 2012, 12:40

Homey wrote:I would personally welcome a move to the popular vote.


I refer you to Mr. Madison's brilliant argument against the same.
As it is, we seem to regard it as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has taken one side or the other. We regard it (in other words) as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has contrived to reach the object of his reasoning. We call a man a bigot or a slave of dogma because he is a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end.

From: All Things Considered - The Error of Impartiality
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Deuce Dropper » 21 May 2012, 17:55

Homey wrote:The common man with half a clue is fed up and wants a big change in how things are done. The uneducated masses that get spoon fed from fox news are surely brainwashed by Romney. The numbers of people showing up at Ron Paul events is often way more than at Romney shindigs. Both Romney and Obama just offer more of the same crap and I think that finally people are pissed off enough to vote for major change. Sadly, it doesn't matter, we go through this silly delegate system and then the electoral college scam.

I would personally welcome a move to the popular vote. No rules to have lawyers argue over, no bs, just a simple popular vote.


I think any poll you see will directly contradict this.

Ron Paul supporters crack me up, everyone else is a sheep except them, but they never stop to think that maybe Ron Paul's ideas would actually sink the US and maybe people do not want to actually destroy their own country because they are unhappy with the current political climate. But oh yeah, 'the country is already being destroyed' quips the Paul support, but is it, is it really or would Paul truly fuck things up?
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby TheGingerMan » 21 May 2012, 19:33

Tigerman wrote:
Homey wrote:I would personally welcome a move to the popular vote.


I refer you to Mr. Madison's brilliant argument against the same.

:bravo:
Oh, yes!
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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Homey » 21 May 2012, 20:43

TheGingerMan wrote:
Tigerman wrote:
Homey wrote:I would personally welcome a move to the popular vote.


I refer you to Mr. Madison's brilliant argument against the same.

:bravo:
Oh, yes!
Nicely played.


Everybody has an opinion. I respect that the posters so far in this thread have a different opinion. Everyone should have a say and a vote.

I personally would like to see a return to the constitution and the power and rights returned to the people. A government by the people and for the people where everyone's vote actually counts.
Why not???

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Re: Ron Paul could still get the GOP nomination

Postby Tigerman » 22 May 2012, 12:34

Homey wrote:I personally would like to see a return to the constitution and the power and rights returned to the people. A government by the people and for the people where everyone's vote actually counts.


But... The US Constitution created a republic rather than a pure democracy.
As it is, we seem to regard it as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has taken one side or the other. We regard it (in other words) as a positive objection to a reasoner that he has contrived to reach the object of his reasoning. We call a man a bigot or a slave of dogma because he is a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end.

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