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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby ironlady » 24 Jul 2012, 13:57

SuperSneakyCow wrote:Oh? I think I heard that, but didn't process it.


OMG. What are the odds?
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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby Deuce Dropper » 24 Jul 2012, 14:07

SuperSneakyCow wrote: He's just talking about community.


He's talking about communism

He is communist.

Mitt Romney believes in communist ideals.

Obama did a poor job at making a valid point. Red meat for clowns like SuperSneakyCow, enjoy it because you got four more years of Obama, and the 2nd term will be a serenade.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby SuperSneakyCow » 24 Jul 2012, 15:22

CraigTPE wrote:
SuperSneakyCow wrote:Eh, not quite the same thing at all, to be completely honest. He's just talking about community/family, and that sort of shit.

He mentioned specifically the facilities communities provide. What could he possibly mean if not infrastructure provided by tax dollars?

I listened to it again. Man, that's rich. I don't think it's part of what he believes, simply because he doesn't have any principals. It always strikes me how Republicans become indignant about fake controversies that never really happened, then ignore the exact same action that the politicians they're in favor of actually did..

"Communities built venues, and organized competitions."

Romney, in favor of community ooorganizing. Liberal scuuuuuum.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby Cooperations » 24 Jul 2012, 16:26

johnny138 wrote:Here' what liar Obama won't tell you: you see those roads and those bridges? Who do you think PAID for all that? People paid taxes from what? Their jobs.

Perhaps he doesn't need to tell us because it is obvious? He doesn't state the obvious then you assume he does not know this. Your hatred for Obama is blind and irrational. If he did state it, you would say he thinks we are all stupid. There is nothing he could say to win a certain blind segment of the population over.

johnny138 wrote:Who provided those damn jobs? Successful companies. And no, not everyone built those.
Again, stating the obvious. Not everyone built companies. Good.

johnny138 wrote:Do YOU own a successful company?
Yes. I even have offshore bank accounts, lol. All legal by the way.

johnny138 wrote:So how about showing some damn respect for people that got off their assess and started successful companies that actually employ people?
Puhhllleease. I don't get that. I don't need people's respect. I built my company because I enjoy doing what I do. I hire people who enjoy it also. I only expect they do the work I pay them for and that hopefully, we can get through the day actually enjoying working together. I highly doubt you have built a successful company.

johnny138 wrote:There's a dangerous and stupid arrogance going around amongst the losers. They want to sit on their assess, do nothing, and claim responsibility for someone else's success. That is not going to happen.
Yes, as has been demonstrated :lol: I haven't heard these rants since the '80's!

johnny138 wrote:Obama is a socialist that doesn't think anyone built anything on their own because he never built anything on his own. He's a pot smoking loser supported by other losers.
Oh, that's a brilliant argument. You know, there is no wonder that people here are turned off of the conservative voice. Fred can complain all he wants, but these types of posts don't help the conservative movement at all. I support many conservative ideas when it comes to taxes and spending by the government, but thinking people are turned off of Republican voices because it is so often represented by silliness.

Recent article about a conservative judge appointed by Reagan essentially saying that he has found it difficult to align himself with this new, vile, Republican party:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/0 ... 84105.html
In a candid interview with NPR Thursday, Posner opened up about what he sees as a “real deterioration in conservative thinking” over the last decade.
“I’ve become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy,” Posner said.


It's a bit of a joke to read posts like this. On the one hand, I think "This guy can't be serious!" On the other, it's depressing because some people actually believe the idiotic things they are saying.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby adguy » 24 Jul 2012, 16:39

As much as I hate to keep this ridiculous right wing crazy's thread alive (why oh why, are there so many of them on the flob? it's so weird) :loco:

There is a world that we all participate in. The more you care about your environment, the better the environment you will have around you. So when the government protects its people and provides services to serve the public interest, that's not taking money from those who earned it and redistributing it to others... it's everyone chipping in for a better community... because you are a part of it. The problem is, the super-wealthy, who could help the most, have disconnected from humanity and really don't wish to contribute anything. In fact, they will spend hundreds of millions to buy politicians to keep them from paying a few extra thousand... just on the principle of not having to send a dime in the direction of helping someone else. And yet their businesses take advantage of an infrastructure, a (somewhat) educated work force, police protection, etc. As do we all. No one is saying pay everything, or pay a crazy lot... we are saying, pay some like everyone else. Don't hide your money and write off everything. But instead they would rather take the government over and wreck it just to say "See, I told you government is bad. Don't feed the beast with taxes."

Privatizing everything shuts people out. Public education may be crap in comparison... but it IS education. That is how regular, poor, or orphaned people rise up and become successful from nothing. If only the people who can afford to go to good schools could get an education, then gulf between rich and poor would grow ever wider. What has made America great is that EVERYONE gets a chance to make themselves better and give themselves a chance. Of course not everyone takes advantage, but it is a possibility that is there. The land of opportunity is not, and was not created by an unfettered free market. There has always a blend of social services, individual protections, and regulations that have kept greed from devouring our democracy. Even Adam Smith said that capitalism has to have a watchful eye on it. But these right wing screams of OMG SOCIALISM are a veil for the fact that those who can afford every advantage has had the system work for them, and now they want to close the doors behind them so no riff-raff follows them in.

I guess when your humanity has been stripped away by greed, it is easy to see those who care about others as the crazy ones.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby Dr. McCoy » 24 Jul 2012, 16:55

I think some of the right wing crazies are just pretending to be right wing. Maybe crazy too. It's pretty sneaky.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby SuperSneakyCow » 24 Jul 2012, 17:48

adguy wrote:As much as I hate to keep this ridiculous right wing crazy's thread alive

By all means, and I do mean by all means.

adguy wrote:As much as I hate to keep this ridiculous right wing crazy's thread alive (why oh why, are there so many of them on the flob? it's so weird) :loco:

There is a world that we all participate in. The more you care about your environment, the better the environment you will have around you. So when the government protects its people and provides services to serve the public interest, that's not taking money from those who earned it and redistributing it to others... it's everyone chipping in for a better community... because you are a part of it. The problem is, the super-wealthy, who could help the most, have disconnected from humanity and really don't wish to contribute anything. In fact, they will spend hundreds of millions to buy politicians to keep them from paying a few extra thousand... just on the principle of not having to send a dime in the direction of helping someone else. And yet their businesses take advantage of an infrastructure, a (somewhat) educated work force, police protection, etc. As do we all. No one is saying pay everything, or pay a crazy lot... we are saying, pay some like everyone else. Don't hide your money and write off everything. But instead they would rather take the government over and wreck it just to say "See, I told you government is bad. Don't feed the beast with taxes."

I guess when your humanity has been stripped away by greed, it is easy to see those who care about others as the crazy ones.


Man, this guy is an unbelievable crook, and I'm saying that based on FACTS.

Dr. McCoy wrote:I think some of the right wing crazies are just pretending to be right wing. Maybe crazy too. It's pretty sneaky.

What are you talking about.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby johnny138 » 24 Jul 2012, 20:11

Cooperations wrote:
johnny138 wrote:Here' what liar Obama won't tell you: you see those roads and those bridges? Who do you think PAID for all that? People paid taxes from what? Their jobs.

Perhaps he doesn't need to tell us because it is obvious? He doesn't state the obvious then you assume he does not know this. Your hatred for Obama is blind and irrational. If he did state it, you would say he thinks we are all stupid. There is nothing he could say to win a certain blind segment of the population over.


It isn't obvious from your posts or from what Obama said. He shows no respect for people that have built successful companies and that's obvious.

johnny138 wrote:Do YOU own a successful company?
Yes. I even have offshore bank accounts, lol. All legal by the way.

Fantastic. I'll take your word for it and assume you've "made it." So how about this: get the hell out of my and every other small business owner's way! If you love Obama and want to donate all your money to his socialist schemes then go right ahead and do it. Rich leftists can fund that garbage if they want but most SME owners don't feel any need to. Because we feel that pinch a lot harder than big businesses and we don't have the resources and lawyers to fight it off. And frankly, we're sick and tired of people like you telling us to get in line. It's a form of competition the big use against the small. I'm on to you. You don't fool me for a minute.

johnny138 wrote:So how about showing some damn respect for people that got off their assess and started successful companies that actually employ people?
Puhhllleease. I don't get that. I don't need people's respect. I built my company because I enjoy doing what I do. I hire people who enjoy it also. I only expect they do the work I pay them for and that hopefully, we can get through the day actually enjoying working together. I highly doubt you have built a successful company.


What you doubt or don't doubt is immaterial. I couldn't care less. The general public is being told by Obama and his socialists that someone's success is everyone's success. That's Obama's main goal and his statement is way too clear for people like you to spin it. "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”" Did he say it or not?

Here's what the National Federation of Independent Businesses had to say about it:
WASHINGTON, D.C., July 16, 2012 — The following statement is the response from NFIB President and CEO Dan Danner to President Obama’s declaration over the weekend that “If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

“What a disappointment to hear President Obama’s revealing comments challenging the significance of America’s entrepreneurs.

His unfortunate remarks over the weekend show an utter lack of understanding and appreciation for the people who take a huge personal risk and work endless hours to start a business and create jobs.

“I'm sure every small-business owner who took a second mortgage on their home, maxed out their credit cards or borrowed money from their own retirement savings to start their business disagrees strongly with President Obama's claim. They know that hard work does matter.

Every small business is not indebted to the government or some other benefactor. If anything, small businesses are historically an economic and job-creating powerhouse in spite of the government.”

http://www.nfib.com/press-media/press-m ... msid=60538

So I'm not the only one to feel this way.

Oh, that's a brilliant argument. You know, there is no wonder that people here are turned off of the conservative voice. Fred can complain all he wants, but these types of posts don't help the conservative movement at all. I support many conservative ideas when it comes to taxes and spending by the government, but thinking people are turned off of Republican voices because it is so often represented by silliness.


It's not people that have been turned off, it's that too many people are hearing it and agreeing! The polls are so much closer than what liberals would like to see and in fact, there are many people that agree with what I'm saying. Just because they aren't on F.com means nothing. That's why your side is on the defensive over this -- Obama said what he really means and always has meant and it's as plain as day. You and the others know he let the cat out of the bag on this one and that damage control must take place.
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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby cfimages » 24 Jul 2012, 20:43

Obama has basically been governing from a centre right position. That's closer to conservative positions than it is to socialism.

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Re: Obama: If you own a business, you didn't make that!

Postby Mucha Man » 24 Jul 2012, 20:50

johnny138 wrote:....It's not people that have been turned off...


What is it then? Dogs? Cats? Area 51 aliens?

Look, sorry but you did just write that. It is clear. I am not misquoting you. Wtf you mean is another story but since I already suspect you are a complete loon, well, then I will just use this as PROOF POSITIVE.

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