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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby Mr He » 15 Mar 2009, 00:39

Well, the Chinese will hopefully back off.
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby Huang Guang Chen » 15 Mar 2009, 00:41

Why would you fark with the US when you hold so much of its paper? Especially now!

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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby Elegua » 15 Mar 2009, 10:29

Huang Guang Chen wrote:Why would you fark with the US when you hold so much of its paper? Especially now!

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'cause they can't unload them without taking an even bigger hit on both the export market & the value of the holdings themselves :lol:

Interestingly - domestically they've come under a lot of pressure from the Chinese, "net", (think Arab "street"), for having these holdings....
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby BigJohn » 18 Mar 2009, 20:13

There was an interesting column about this whole incident by Frank Ching, who I think is an very incisive journalist, in the China Post today.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/frank-ching/2009/03/18/200569/Sea-incident.htm

Seems that China has deliberately misinterpreted the UNCLOS's intentions from the start.
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby lbksig » 18 Mar 2009, 20:36

BigJohn wrote:There was an interesting column about this whole incident by Frank Ching, who I think is an very incisive journalist, in the China Post today.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/frank-ching/2009/03/18/200569/Sea-incident.htm

Seems that China has deliberately misinterpreted the UNCLOS's intentions from the start.


That's reassuring after reading what some of the Chinese "netizens" have been writing.

South China Sea Confrontation, Chinese Netizen Reactions

Americans are too overbearing/arrogant.


China must establish a strong defense ability! It must rely on comprehensive [economic, technology, defense, etc.] national strength before it can defeat the American devils!!!


It was originally ours [the South China Sea], so we should go take it, why do we need to say anything to America and Japan? Is China that afraid of war? We shouldn’t be like the Qing Dynasty [and give in to foreign powers], still wanting to be the sick man of Asia? Oh, if a war started, I’d go join the military.


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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby BigJohn » 18 Mar 2009, 20:43

Those are pretty harsh, but I think the average Chinese person is much more moderate. There are nutjobs, bigots, racists and militarists in every country. Not meaning to imply that you thought they were representative, mind you, but just felt the point needed to be made.
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby Elegua » 19 Mar 2009, 00:23

BigJohn wrote:Those are pretty harsh, but I think the average Chinese person is much more moderate. There are nutjobs, bigots, racists and militarists in every country. Not meaning to imply that you thought they were representative, mind you, but just felt the point needed to be made.


What are you talking about? These nutjobs are the norm.
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby BigJohn » 19 Mar 2009, 01:44

Elegua wrote:
BigJohn wrote:Those are pretty harsh, but I think the average Chinese person is much more moderate. There are nutjobs, bigots, racists and militarists in every country. Not meaning to imply that you thought they were representative, mind you, but just felt the point needed to be made.


What are you talking about? These nutjobs are the norm.


Do you mean the norm for 50 center Nats, or the norm for educated Chinese?
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby Tempo Gain » 19 Mar 2009, 01:50

If the China Post can be believed--a dubious proposition I know, but presumably so here--I see the US has sent out a destroyer to escort. That should keep the junks and what-not away.
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Re: Chinese ships surround and harass US Navy mapping ship

Postby lbksig » 19 Mar 2009, 09:56

Tempo Gain wrote:If the China Post can be believed--a dubious proposition I know, but presumably so here--I see the US has sent out a destroyer to escort. That should keep the junks and what-not away.


How about the Washington Post?

The U.S. Navy has dispatched a guided-missile destroyer to the South China Sea after Chinese ships allegedly harassed an American ship operating there last weekend, a Pentagon official said yesterday.

The USS Chung-Hoon, armed with torpedoes and missiles, is stationed in protection of the USNS Impeccable, an ocean surveillance ship. On Sunday, five Chinese vessels surrounded the Impeccable, which is unarmed. The Chinese ships approached to within 25 feet and blocked the Impeccable's path with pieces of wood, the official said.



I wonder if they chose that destroyer on purpose for it's name. The destroyer is named after Rear Admiral Gordon Pai'ea Chung-hoon, an American of both Chinese and Hawaiian descent who served in the US Navy during WWII. He's well decorated, having received the Navy Cross and a Silver Star for heroism after his ship was hit by a kamikaze attack off of Japan.

And now for the Chinese response:

BEIJING (AFP) — China has dispatched its most modern patrol ship to the South China Sea, state press said Sunday, after an incident with a US naval vessel and a fresh claim by the Philippines to the disputed territory.
The Beijing News said the vessel would conduct patrols of what it called China's exclusive maritime zone in the disputed waters surrounding the Paracel and Spratly Islands.
It said the converted naval rescue ship would aid Chinese fishing boats and transport vessels.
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