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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer » 04 Jul 2010, 09:16

Hahaha
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=132565&sectionid=351020101
Iran slams Canada human rights abuse
Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:22:11 GMT

Iran has strongly condemned the Canadian police for arresting hundreds of protesters during the recent G20 summit in Toronto, describing the move as an inhuman act.

"The use of various violent tools and ways to counter a peaceful rally is by no means justified. The move by the Canadian government is a blatant breach of basic rights of citizens to freedom of expression," Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast said on Tuesday.

The spokesperson also warned against the "new and dangerous" approach adopted by Canada toward the civil rights of its citizens, expressing Iran's profound concern over a lack of life security and a possible violation of rights of those arrested in that country during the last few days.

Mehmanparast advised the Canadian government to observe the rights of the detainees and to give assurances that the judicial process will take its natural course.

The remarks come as protests against the summit have resulted in more than 600 arrests. Seventy others were also detained after police raided the University of Toronto's downtown campus.


That's rich. I wonder how this came about? Maybe Iran's leaders want to show their own people that they can boss around a Western country, or maybe, they are portraying the news about the G20 as WORSE than what happened in Iran during their last election?
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Jaboney » 18 Jul 2010, 23:16

More heroics from the G20.
Toronto Star wrote:He's now known as “Officer Bubbles.”

Const. Adam Josephs has gained considerable notoriety after being caught on tape threatening to arrest a G20 protester for blowing bubbles.

In a viral Internet video, the 52 Division officer tells protester Courtney Winkels she will be arrested for assault because she is blowing bubbles in front of officers.
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“You touch me with that bubble you're going into custody,” he tells her in a video entitled “Booked for Bubbles” that was shot June 27 near Queen St. W. and Dufferin St.
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Winkels says she was talking with the female officer when Josephs walked over from about seven metres away — “totally out of range of the bubbles” — to stand in front of her and threaten arrest.
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When contacted, Josephs hung up on a Star reporter.
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 19 Jul 2010, 03:06

Okay, what I just don't get about these summits is why they hold them in major cities anywhere in the world. It's the same story every time. If I were a resident, particularly a store owner, I'd be groaning at the mere announcement of one of these things. What an enormous pain in the arse for the average person living in Toronto this whole thing must have been. I can't see how they benefitted from either the protestors or the people attending the summit. Predictably, it ended up like the Olympics on bad amphetamines.

It's not like Canada is the size of San Marino. Surely they could have held something like this in a far more remote location. There must be some places that are harder to get to that have enough hotel and convention rooms. Then, they could have essentially controlled the traffic one hundred kilometres away from where it was going to happen and they could have avoided all this mayhem.

I mean, really, why has no one figured this out yet? I can remember this same scene playing out year after year for well over a decade. What a bunch of knuckleheads organising these things and what a bunch of knuckleheads turning up (both inside and outside).
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Jaboney » 19 Jul 2010, 08:23

Well, when Canada hosted the summit in 2002, they stuck it out in Kananaskis. Practically and tactically, that makes sense.

But I can't help but think it ought to be possible to hold these summits downtown in major metropolitan areas if they were seen and understood to in the public interest. As it is, there are photo shoots during the meeting, the media's spoon-fed press releases with the consistency of pablum afterwards, and few people know what (if anything) was accomplished. As a result, it's pretty easy to paint the meetings as exercises in corporate governance and the policies as contrary to the public good (whether that's true or not). As it stands, a lot of people have a legitimate interest in protesting, and that provides cover and opportunity for migrant vandals.
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Chewycorns » 19 Jul 2010, 08:57

Jaboney wrote:Well, when Canada hosted the summit in 2002, they stuck it out in Kananaskis. Practically and tactically, that makes sense.

But I can't help but think it ought to be possible to hold these summits downtown in major metropolitan areas if they were seen and understood to in the public interest. As it is, there are photo shoots during the meeting, the media's spoon-fed press releases with the consistency of pablum afterwards, and few people know what (if anything) was accomplished. As a result, it's pretty easy to paint the meetings as exercises in corporate governance and the policies as contrary to the public good (whether that's true or not). As it stands, a lot of people have a legitimate interest in protesting, and that provides cover and opportunity for migrant vandals.


Given the cost of hosting them in big cities, I wonder why the Feds didn't host it in the hinterland. Although some jet-setters probably complained, I thought the summit they hosted in Nunuvut a while back was a great idea. Highlights quiant communities that regular politicos and bureaucrats don't go to. The buffer between such out of the way places and major liberal big cities is quite a good buffer. What shit disturber is going to pay 1500 dollars to fly out to one of these places? Not many.
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 19 Jul 2010, 09:42

Jaboney: I just wonder what point there is in holding these things in major cities just so there's the freedom to hold protests though, other than as part of the circus of it. I don't mean that people shouldn't be allowed to protest things. What I mean is that governments and corporations have all sorts of closed sessions (including teleconferences) all of the time. Many, maybe even most, occur largely without any knowledge of their existence (or tacit acceptance thereof) or input from average citizens. That's why I say the people on the inside are a bunch of knuckleheads too because they contribute to the spectacle of it on these occasions knowing that doing it that way is going to mean a bunch of knuckleheads outside are going to break and burn stuff. Likewise, a whole lot of the peaceful knuckleheads outside know that they're going to be doing very little other than having one giant circle jerk, but they're going to provide cover for miscreants.

Again, knuckleheads all round.

Then there's the cost. If they really want a circus here's a novel solution: buy a big cruise ship, load it up with all the booze, cocaine and hookers you can buy for $20 million, provide it with a naval escort, send it south to warmer waters and hold these things there instead. It would cost less and cause less grief for everyone.
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Vorkosigan » 19 Jul 2010, 14:47

Because they want the Black Bloc to come in and smash things. That way the media will report on the carefully managed violence, and the actual protests themselves will be invisible.
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Kawa » 19 Jul 2010, 16:01

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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Fortigurn » 21 Jul 2010, 08:54

Vorkosigan wrote:Because they want the Black Bloc to come in and smash things. That way the media will report on the carefully managed violence, and the actual protests themselves will be invisible.


j.scholl already has a thread, you can join it.
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Re: Thread for pics & video of the G20 riots in Toronto

Postby Fortigurn » 21 Jul 2010, 13:12

Jaboney wrote:
Fortigurn wrote:I agree, and I sahre your disappointment that no such injuries appear to have been incurred, or children trampled.
Deliberate misrepresentation.

Fortigurn wrote: But it appears you agree the police in Canada are indeed accountable, and it disappoints you.
Deliberate misrepresentation.

Fortigurn wrote:I got your club right here. :thumbsup:
Guilt by (mis)association.


No, that's called sarcasm.

Trolling, start to finish.


I note you didn't address any of my serious points, and avoided in particular the fact that I identified you as having consistently misrepresented the situation.

Congratulations, sir. Your posts, together with your professed affinities, are together of a character that makes one ashamed to claim a Christian identity or influence in political discourse. Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Richard Dawkins try so hard to discredit religion in the public sphere, but you do so effortlessly. Well done.


Now that is trolling. I note again a refusal to address any of the serious issues under discussion.
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