Mucha Man wrote:tommy525 wrote:Muzha Man wrote:tommy525 wrote:Most Taiwanese want to differentiate themselves from the Chinese in China but many do consider themselves to be Chinese in origin, even if in fact some of their genealogy is taiwanese aborigine.
Not all want a nation of Taiwan, but most do I think.
That is no different from modern Tibet, where large numbers of people who are benefitting from Chinese investment want to remain part of China. Not everyone challenges Chinese sovereignty over Tibet and this is also true historically.
Additionally, Tibetans are not ethnically Han AFAIK ? While the Taiwanese largely are.
I think I was responding to a different post. In any case, is Taiwan to be a race-based political entity? I hope not or there is no place for people like me, nor the tens of thousands of SE Asian brides and their offspring, not the 3% aboriginals, nor the assimilated Pingpu, etc, etc.
Be that as it may, things are very different from when you grew up here. The majority now consider themselves Taiwanese and not Chinese. Not that it matters. Vancouver is about 50% Asian but this doesn't mean my hometown is in danger of being annexed.
Gao Bohan wrote:You repeatedly state that until Taiwan asserts its independence, it remains a province of China. That seems to me a false choice. The options are not limited to "Taiwan, Province of China" and "Taiwan, Fully Independent Nation". Taiwan is not a province of China in any tangible sense of the word, but it has not declared its independence for obvious reasons. If the status of Taiwan is not "undetermined", then that word has no meaning in a geopolitical context.
finley wrote:Maybe this one belongs in the 'pet peeves' thread, but here it is:
I am completely sick of websites which ask you to select your country from a list and give this ridiculous option for Taiwan residents. Whatever your opinion on Taiwan's status, it's a real country (according to Frank Zappa's definition, anyway) and it's entitled to at least choose it's own name, which to most people is simply "Taiwan", with no political overtones. AFAIK not even the Chinese Communist Party refers to us as "Taiwan, Province of China" (I imagine they try not to talk about us at all). So why the hell does every english-speaking website use this stupid phrase? Where are they getting their country list from?
I'm not even talking about government websites. Only a few governments worldwide officially accept the 'One China' policy anyway. It's all and sundry. 50% of the time, I email and complain; so far the only positive response I got was from a Canadian government department. The others don't even respond.
I even had one Website simply change my free-text location (Taiwan) into "China". I whinged and they changed it to (surprise!) "Taiwan, Province of China".
What can we do about annexation by craven foreign consent? It's really starting to piss me off.
ABC wrote:I do not see why you have to be that annoyed by something as minor as how Taiwan is listed on websites. It's just some information you click on when filling out some stupid internet forms. Just click on it, get it over with, and then forget about it. It's not going to kill you whether Taiwan is list as "Taiwan", "Taiwan, province of China", "Chinese Taipei", or some other name. So why bother get riled up over it?
ABC wrote:I do not see why you have to be that annoyed by something as minor as how Taiwan is listed on websites. It's just some information you click on when filling out some stupid internet forms. Just click on it, get it over with, and then forget about it. It's not going to kill you whether Taiwan is listed as "Taiwan", "Taiwan, province of China", "Chinese Taipei", or some other name. So why bother get riled up over it?
ABC wrote:Doing what you think is right isn't going to put money in the bank.
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