Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

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Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby gnaij » 16 Dec 2011, 02:38

With all the misguided fuss the DPP made about his expired US Green Card a few years ago, I wonder why this hasn't been brought up yet.

According to the Basic Law of Hong Kong, "Chinese citizens born in Hong Kong before or after the establishment of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region" are Hong Kong permanent residents and have the right of abode in Hong Kong. Unlike US permanent residency, the right of abode is held for life (...or at least until 2047) by Chinese citizens born in Hong Kong, and does not expire due to extended absences from Hong Kong.

http://www.gov.hk/en/residents/immigrat ... /eligible/

All President Ma needs to do is to go to Hong Kong, submit his birth certificate and form ROP145 to the Immigration Department, and he will be entitled to a Hong Kong permanent identity card and HKSAR passport. After this, he cannot be denied entry to Hong Kong, or be deported from Hong Kong, and can vote and stand in Hong Kong elections.

Before the handover in 1997, Ma's status was that of the British Dependent Territories Citizen under the British Nationality Act 1981; his British nationality was automatically lost due to the handover. By being born in Hong Kong, he was a Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies with Hong Kong belonger status from birth and until 1983, and a BDTC with the right of abode in Hong Kong from 1983 until 1997.

One of his daughters - the one without the US passport - also qualifies for the HK permanent identity card, HKSAR passport, and Home Return Permit. The one born in America probably doesn't; since her parents had US Green Cards at the time of her birth, she is not considered a Chinese national. But since British Nationality Law permits dual nationality, she was also a BDTC with the right of abode before the handover in 1997, so as a former permanent resident, she hold the right to land in Hong Kong. The right to land is like the right of abode, with the main difference being that she would be able to vote or stand in elections, and could be deported as part of a conviction for a serious crime.
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby tommy525 » 16 Dec 2011, 03:00

Well good then, after his term is over he can live in the Kong if he wants ta.
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby Satellite TV » 16 Dec 2011, 03:46

tommy525 wrote:Well good then, after his term is over he can live in the Kong if he wants ta.


He doesnt even need to wait until then Tommy he can leave any time he likes. :D
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby Cueball » 16 Dec 2011, 05:27

Satellite TV wrote:
tommy525 wrote:Well good then, after his term is over he can live in the Kong if he wants ta.


He doesnt even need to wait until then Tommy he can leave any time he likes. :D


Yeah, but will he be welcome after losing the election to Tsai after the cock-up his campaign has been? Methinks Beijing might pressure the HK authorities to come up with a technicality to keep him out. :D
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby baberenglish » 16 Dec 2011, 07:43

Most KMters over the age of 60 weren't born in Taiwan.
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby Taixinomee » 07 Jan 2012, 22:49

And even if the statement was true, Ma has clearly done a far better job than his DPP predecessor.
Similar concerns have existed against Obama. He comes from Hawai, his middle name is Hussein and his US citizen may be fake, so what?
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby sam_wong » 08 Jan 2012, 11:20

Good Idea:
Maybe Ma can get elect president of Hong Kong.
Then can unify HK and Taiwan, if have same president.
Maybe this is KMT plan.
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby hannes » 08 Jan 2012, 13:53

I don't think it has any bearing on whether he's a good president for Taiwan or not.
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Re: Ma Ying-jeou is a Hong Kong Permanent Resident

Postby gnaij » 09 Jan 2012, 07:20

Barack Obama was Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent through his father. This status reverted to Kenyan citizenship upon Kenya's independence in 1963, and Obama lost his Kenyan citizenship upon turning 23 in 1984 because Kenya prohibits dual citizenship for adults. http://factcheck.org/2008/08/obamas-kenyan-citizenship/

Ma Ying-jeou cannot stand for election as Hong Kong chief executive since that position requires that he has resided continuously for 20 years in Hong Kong. He could however stand for election for the Legislative Council.
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