Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby PigBloodCake » 19 May 2012, 21:02

Frankly, he should have kept his word and raise the damn electricity price all at once on 5/15 instead of the half-ass measure currently being put out after the public fury.

Love to see the economy tank ('bout time too) because of this. The reset button wasn't pressed hard enough in '08 (thanks Central Banks....especially you, Mr. Baldy).
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby Taiwan Luthiers » 19 May 2012, 21:07

PigBloodCake wrote:Frankly, he should have kept his word and raise the damn electricity price all at once on 5/15 instead of the half-ass measure currently being put out after the public fury.

Love to see the economy tank ('bout time too) because of this. The reset button wasn't pressed hard enough in '08 (thanks Central Banks....especially you, Mr. Baldy).


In the interest of the the people, its probably best to do this in stages rather than having a big jump in electricity prices. A sudden jump gets people angry and unfortunately the people aren't concerned about the economy at large, in their mind the economy sucks no matter what anyone else tells them.

It was wise for them to do this in stages but it was a bit rash of them to announce the price hike like this. They should have planned a gradual hike to begin with.
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Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby headhonchoII » 19 May 2012, 22:04

The economy doesn't mean anything to the average salary man/woman. They just feel income vs expenses.
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby Teddoman » 19 May 2012, 23:08

PigBloodCake wrote:Well, as you know, you can only vote at the borough where you have household registration. Yeah, try asking all the Southerners working in the North (Taipei area mostly) to take HSR back to Kaohsiung area TWICE (once for the election and another one for CNY...all within consecutive weekends).

Super interesting, I didn't about the aggregate effect of voting according to household registration. Even the Taiwanese living in the US have to fly back to vote in elections (which the really politically inclined ones do).

That's so wierd that Taiwan doesn't have absentee voting. It's a wierd structural impediment that, combined with most jobs being in the north, probably results in the KMT getting more votes than they should. I wonder if there's ever been an attempt to institute absentee voting in Taiwan.
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby PigBloodCake » 20 May 2012, 00:00

Teddoman wrote:
PigBloodCake wrote:Well, as you know, you can only vote at the borough where you have household registration. Yeah, try asking all the Southerners working in the North (Taipei area mostly) to take HSR back to Kaohsiung area TWICE (once for the election and another one for CNY...all within consecutive weekends).

Super interesting, I didn't about the aggregate effect of voting according to household registration. Even the Taiwanese living in the US have to fly back to vote in elections (which the really politically inclined ones do).

That's so wierd that Taiwan doesn't have absentee voting. It's a wierd structural impediment that, combined with most jobs being in the north, probably results in the KMT getting more votes than they should. I wonder if there's ever been an attempt to institute absentee voting in Taiwan.


Doubtful.

One word to sum up why: fraud.
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby PigBloodCake » 20 May 2012, 00:06

headhonchoII wrote:The economy doesn't mean anything to the average salary man/woman. They just feel income vs expenses.


Word up. And with electricity/gas price rising, it's quite obvious that other things will go up in price.

The question is: with NT being much stronger nowadays (compared to the world's reserve currency), why the hell do we have inflation in the 'wan when we got more buying power with stronger NT?

China I get (RMB pegged to USD) but why Taiwan? :ponder:
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby Teddoman » 20 May 2012, 00:08

PigBloodCake wrote:One word to sum up why: fraud.

Going to a local voter booth to vote in front of some minimum wage temporary worker who doesn't know you isn't any more secure than any other method.

With technology today, there's got to be some way to do it: filming someone as they walk into a voter booth, fingerprint checks, iris scans, credit card / Taiwan ID swipes. Any method is more secure than visual spot checks of an ID by a temp worker.
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby Hamletintaiwan » 20 May 2012, 02:57

It all went mostly harmless nothing to film really.
Like always, when there is an anti government demo in Taiwan, it rains. Cloud seeding instead of sticks and tear-gas.
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby Super Hans » 20 May 2012, 03:00

People are pissed because...of what? They have to pay more for fuel and electricity? If so then that is not Ma's fault. They should be pissed at their crummy legislators.


I don't think that it is the fact that prices go up. It is the fact that Ma said they wouldn't go up for some time, and then they wen't up straight after the election.
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Re: Huge Anti Ma Ying Jeou Demo in Taipei

Postby Hamletintaiwan » 20 May 2012, 03:05

Super Hans wrote:
People are pissed because...of what? They have to pay more for fuel and electricity? If so then that is not Ma's fault. They should be pissed at their crummy legislators.


I don't think that it is the fact that prices go up. It is the fact that Ma said they wouldn't go up for some time, and then they wen't up straight after the election.


I think so too.
It's the fact that he had the power to keep them down till after the election.
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