FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby headhonchoII » 22 May 2012, 14:03

housecat wrote:It pays better than being a single mom! There's a subsidy for low earning single parents of NT$5,000 per month. That amount is enough to keep two of my friends married because the non-working father would sue for custody over that stipend! $10,000 a month just for jumping off a boat? Wow.

I'm sure life was rotten in Chinese prison, but there's a lot more wrong with this picture than bad Taiwanese government.


You only get that subsidy if you earn less than 30,000 NTD or so, of course if you are working you probably need to spend money on child-care anyway.

Let's not conflate the issues, the dissident is pissed off because he has not been given any status or working rights. Since he seems to be a genuine dissident, I do feel for him and hope the legislature can improve on the current situation which has been ongoing for many years. Many Tibetans were in a similar limbo and depended on once-off type approvals to get IDs.
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby headhonchoII » 22 May 2012, 14:03

housecat wrote:It pays better than being a single mom! There's a subsidy for low earning single parents of NT$5,000 per month. That amount is enough to keep two of my friends married because the non-working father would sue for custody over that stipend! $10,000 a month just for jumping off a boat? Wow.

I'm sure life was rotten in Chinese prison, but there's a lot more wrong with this picture than bad Taiwanese government.


You only get that subsidy if you earn less than 30,000 NTD or so, of course if you are working you probably need to spend money on child-care anyway. They will also not give it to you if you have any assets on your hukou. As most single mothers are under their own parents hukou (yes ridiculous system :eek: )and their parents often has some assets like a house, they cannot claim this stipend.

Let's not conflate the issues, the dissident is pissed off because he has not been given any status or working rights. Since he seems to be a genuine dissident, I do feel for him and hope the legislature can improve on the current situation which has been ongoing for many years. Many Tibetans were in a similar limbo and depended on once-off type approvals to get IDs.
I can remember the fourth of July runnin' through the backwood bare.
And I can still hear my old hound dog barkin' chasin' down a hoodoo there
Chasin' down a hoodoo there.
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby housecat » 22 May 2012, 20:02

headhonchoII wrote:
housecat wrote:It pays better than being a single mom! There's a subsidy for low earning single parents of NT$5,000 per month. That amount is enough to keep two of my friends married because the non-working father would sue for custody over that stipend! $10,000 a month just for jumping off a boat? Wow.

I'm sure life was rotten in Chinese prison, but there's a lot more wrong with this picture than bad Taiwanese government.


You only get that subsidy if you earn less than 30,000 NTD or so, of course if you are working you probably need to spend money on child-care anyway. They will also not give it to you if you have any assets on your hukou. As most single mothers are under their own parents hukou (yes ridiculous system :eek: )and their parents often has some assets like a house, they cannot claim this stipend.

Let's not conflate the issues, the dissident is pissed off because he has not been given any status or working rights. Since he seems to be a genuine dissident, I do feel for him and hope the legislature can improve on the current situation which has been ongoing for many years. Many Tibetans were in a similar limbo and depended on once-off type approvals to get IDs.


I know. The single parent subsidy is difficult to qualify for, but the point is that it's a pittance. They're giving this guy/these guys double to quadruple the amount they'd give to help support a citizen child. That was what I was trying to point out. And as you've made clear, it was easier for him to "qualify" for it than for the single parents here.

No doubt it's tough to be in such a position for so long. I don't know what the right answer might be for these guys, but criticizing the Taiwanese government in an attempt to cause action that might avoid a loss of face is not likely to get the desired result, IMO.
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby Benjamin K » 14 Jul 2012, 02:20

Taiwan should help those who persecuted by the communist party.
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FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby headhonchoII » 14 Jul 2012, 05:23

The point is they don't want these rather paltry subsidies, they just want IDs and working rights and to be recognized as refugees, or not. Then they can build a new life here in Taiwan.
Criticizing Taiwan is out of frustration, the US and others are doing nothing for them.
The Chinese government is the real problem, they torture and can even kill opponents of the regime.
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby printlessfoot » 14 Jul 2012, 12:31

Benjamin K wrote:Taiwan should help those who persecuted by the communist party.

which country shouldn't? Phillipine should too. taiwan is not more responsible than any other country.
Set yourself free from the worthless manner of life handed down by your ancestors.

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FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby headhonchoII » 14 Jul 2012, 13:05

Well it is since it still claims to be Republic of China and is under threat of being absorbed into the PRC.
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby sandman » 14 Jul 2012, 18:34

No, its cool. Its definitely the best way. Post your whinges on the Intarwebs and get a handful of ignorant twats to "support" your cause. Ka-CHING! :lol: :lol: :lol:
DUUUUDE! Take a look, man! It's right THERE! Right on the Internet! So it MUST be true!
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby Benjamin K » 25 Aug 2012, 14:41

printlessfoot wrote:
Benjamin K wrote:Taiwan should help those who persecuted by the communist party.

which country shouldn't? Phillipine should too. taiwan is not more responsible than any other country.



But Taiwan has done little. In fact,to help those who persecuted by the communist party is to help Taiwan.
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Re: FEATURE : I’d rather be beaten than stay in Taiwan: defector

Postby TheGingerMan » 25 Aug 2012, 15:41

Militarygamer:
Der kommisar:
I think you should watch your six.
I swear to Bacchus I saw some interlopers on ye flank.
Ready for perimetre penetration, they were.
But this is none of my concern, if you care to mold your own Dien Bien Phu.
Taiwan rules, over China, in so many ways.
Get used to it........
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even to day do I declare that I will render double unto thee:"

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