Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

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Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby tommy525 » 18 Jul 2012, 13:57

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/nati ... sident.htm

Chennie's docs say he is sure to die within 4 years in prison. Should the KMT run current admin let him out? How bout house arrest? Or is that the KMT's intention.

Yes he was a schmuck who embezzled at least 30 million but Suharto got billions and didnt suffer too much undue loss of dignity.

Should he be allowed to live out his sentence under house arrest?


Or is that too much of a threat to the KMT's ROC ?
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby Mucha Man » 18 Jul 2012, 14:09

Chen didn't embezzle. Those charges were long dropped on appeal. He is imprisoned mostly for accepting a bribe in relation to the Longtan science park deal, a bribe Jeffrey Koo later said he made up under pressure from the prosecutors, and an office-buying scandal.
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby tommy525 » 18 Jul 2012, 14:21

Muzha Man wrote:Chen didn't embezzle. Those charges were long dropped on appeal. He is imprisoned mostly for accepting a bribe in relation to the Longtan science park deal, a bribe Jeffrey Koo later said he made up under pressure from the prosecutors, and an office-buying scandal.


SO he is is prison for what then? IF charges are dropped? And the bribe is nonsense? Koo should be in jail then for lying?

What bout the over 30 million US dollars? Chennie didnt collect that from his humble salary?

OR is it the PRC's pleasure at persecuting Chennie at play here, working thru Ma's KMT run ROC ?
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby Chris » 18 Jul 2012, 14:26

I saw a Chinese language newspaper headline yesterday that said he "committed suicide" 3 times ("自殺3次"). Surely they meant "attempted suicide"?
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby Mucha Man » 18 Jul 2012, 14:27

tommy525 wrote:
Muzha Man wrote:Chen didn't embezzle. Those charges were long dropped on appeal. He is imprisoned mostly for accepting a bribe in relation to the Longtan science park deal, a bribe Jeffrey Koo later said he made up under pressure from the prosecutors, and an office-buying scandal.


SO he is is prison for what then? IF charges are dropped? And the bribe is nonsense? Koo should be in jail then for lying?

What bout the over 30 million US dollars? Chennie didnt collect that from his humble salary?

OR is it the PRC's pleasure at persecuting Chennie at play here, working thru Ma's KMT run ROC ?


He is in jail for the charges I mentioned. Bribes not embezzling state funds. The prosecutors haven't seen fit to relook at whether Koo's accusations were true. In any case there were others though his jail sentence is in excess of his crimes no matter what.

Koo is in jail as far as I know but for other charges. He's a completely odious character.
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby Super Hans » 18 Jul 2012, 14:28

And considering embezzlement appears to be right up the KMT's street, especially concerning the KMT's past and in light of current affairs, I don't think it has any place to treat any person in the way that they treat CSB. They hate him, and that's why he is in prison.
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby finley » 18 Jul 2012, 14:38

Chris wrote:I saw a Chinese language newspaper headline yesterday that said he "committed suicide" 3 times ("自殺3次").

You wait and see, he'll be back with a hockey mask and a chainsaw. They'll pay. They'll all pay. Wahhahaha.
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby archylgp » 18 Jul 2012, 14:41

I read the article the OP posted. It didn't say why he will die within four years...seems like BS to me.
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby Icon » 18 Jul 2012, 15:00

Chris wrote:I saw a Chinese language newspaper headline yesterday that said he "committed suicide" 3 times ("自殺3次"). Surely they meant "attempted suicide"?


In the words of my Statistics instructor from Texas, "close enough for government work".

Links in English:
From CNA: http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_ ... 1207170041
Denial by officials: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/ ... 22/1/.html

Honestly, just being in this heat without AC is bad enough. Elderly peope suffer more, and those with cardiovascular conditions are in danger. That said, I believe all inmates should have the right to AC, no one, not even a murderer, deserves being baked slowly.

As to the specific conditions of Chen, I do not think domiciliary detention is customary here in Taiwan.
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Re: Should Chennie be allowed to die in prison

Postby Feiren » 18 Jul 2012, 15:08

MM: None of the Koos are in jail. Jeffrey Koo Jr. was sentenced to 10 years for securities and banking offenses. The case is on its first appeal. As in most normal cases against big shots in Taiwan, the case will drag on for 10 years and then be reduced to a year or two out of which said big shot will serve 6-8 months if he is not released for medical reasons first. Hell, it took 16 years to convict Weng Da-ming on insider trading charges.

Chen says the 23 million (I think it was) was campaign contributions that he took out of Taiwan to prevent the KMT from getting to it.

While Chen clearly was ethically bankrupt and perhaps worse, his trial and those of the high officials who served under the DPP administration were a political purge by the KMT.



Muzha Man wrote:
tommy525 wrote:
Muzha Man wrote:Chen didn't embezzle. Those charges were long dropped on appeal. He is imprisoned mostly for accepting a bribe in relation to the Longtan science park deal, a bribe Jeffrey Koo later said he made up under pressure from the prosecutors, and an office-buying scandal.


SO he is is prison for what then? IF charges are dropped? And the bribe is nonsense? Koo should be in jail then for lying?

What bout the over 30 million US dollars? Chennie didnt collect that from his humble salary?

OR is it the PRC's pleasure at persecuting Chennie at play here, working thru Ma's KMT run ROC ?


He is in jail for the charges I mentioned. Bribes not embezzling state funds. The prosecutors haven't seen fit to relook at whether Koo's accusations were true. In any case there were others though his jail sentence is in excess of his crimes no matter what.

Koo is in jail as far as I know but for other charges. He's a completely odious character.
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