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more Taiwanese racism (Taoyuan community petitions foreign workers to leave)

Postby Cooperations » 20 Sep 2012, 12:55

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003543198
Following recent accusations of discrimination against foreign workers by Taipei Railway Station, another incident of alleged discrimination has surfaced, with about 1,000 residents in a Taoyuan County community petitioning to have 30 Filipino workers move out of the area.
Hanging up large banners that read “No to foreign workers in our community,” residents of Rueilian Community (瑞聯社區) in the county’s Bade City (八德) said they did not want the foreign workers from the nearby Ablecome Technology company to stay in the community because of safety concerns.
“We are concerned about our safety,” a resident, Lin Feng-mei (林鳳美), said in a video clip aired by Public Television. “There are many children living in this community. Most of the families here have children, and they are afraid of playing in the park because those foreign workers also spend their leisure time in the park.”

Now I've always said Taiwan is a racist country, so I'm not too surprised by this. And I'm always amazed by Taiwanese people's defense, which is basically "No we are not." For those of you not convinced, here you are:
“It has nothing to do with discrimination,” she said. “With 460 households and more than 1,000 residents, Rueilian is a peaceful community. They are merely worried that clashes could happen because of these foreign workers, with their different skin color and different culture, going in and out of the community.”

You see, they aren't racist. They just don't like people who are different or darker than they are around, so it's all good... :noway:
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Re: more Taiwanese racism

Postby Deuce Dropper » 20 Sep 2012, 13:03

Your second quote, the one from the politician, is truly sad. What's worse is that most people will find a way to sympathize with the petitioners rather than the migrants.
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Postby funkymonkey » 20 Sep 2012, 13:07

Is anyone really surprised by this? Taiwanese are horribly racist towards SE Asian people (of course, they will never admit it). Saying otherwise is just silly.
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Re: more Taiwanese racism (Taoyuan community petitions foreign workers to leave)

Postby tommy525 » 20 Sep 2012, 13:17

Its the TW govts fault. They should have educational clips showing how the MRT and the HSR and other major projects were built by these SE Asians. And how many of the products "proudly" made in Taiwan are being made by SE Asians. And how many of older Taiwanese owe their daily well being to SE Asians who wheel them around and take care of them where their taiwanese relatives will not anymore.

Its the TW govts fault for not extolling all the benefits SE Asians have brought to life in Taiwan.

The animosity against SE Asians have to be educated OUT.

Or Taiwan is to remain in the dark ages and be passed behind just like Japan will be.
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Postby fanglangzhe » 20 Sep 2012, 13:18

funkymonkey wrote:Is anyone really surprised by this? Taiwanese are horribly racist towards SE Asian people (of course, they will never admit it). Saying otherwise is just silly.


You can say exactly the same about Mainland Chinese, Korean, and Japanese in terms of racist attitudes towards darker skinned people. On the other hand, their views towards the fair skinned races (Caucasians) are also "racist" but in the opposite way. Many of you experience this first hand.
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Re: more Taiwanese racism (Taoyuan community petitions foreign workers to leave)

Postby Deuce Dropper » 20 Sep 2012, 13:30

tommy525 wrote:Its the TW govts fault. They should have educational clips showing how the MRT and the HSR and other major projects were built by these SE Asians. And how many of the products "proudly" made in Taiwan are being made by SE Asians. And how many of older Taiwanese owe their daily well being to SE Asians who wheel them around and take care of them where their taiwanese relatives will not anymore.

Its the TW govts fault for not extolling all the benefits SE Asians have brought to life in Taiwan.

The animosity against SE Asians have to be educated OUT.

Or Taiwan is to remain in the dark ages and be passed behind just like Japan will be.


The government won't do anything, the horrific quote in the OP is from an elected official for crisesakes.
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Re: more Taiwanese racism (Taoyuan community petitions foreign workers to leave)

Postby finley » 20 Sep 2012, 13:34

I don't think it's skin colour, as such. That seems to be just the way halfwit politicans rationalize it. I'm about the same hue as the average Indonesian or Filipino, but people always seem to treat me with the sort of weird, embarrassing deference they reserve for "Americans" (= any white person of European descent). I've never met with any overtly racist behaviour. It's just Taiwan's ugly "caste system": these people earn less than us and do our bidding, while we sit on our asses or squash cyclists with our SUVs. Therefore they are lesser humans.

But yeah - the government isn't going to do anything. They are exactly the sort of privileged chinless wonders who look down their noses at the people doing the hard work.
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Re: more Taiwanese racism

Postby louisfriend » 20 Sep 2012, 13:43

fanglangzhe wrote:
funkymonkey wrote:Is anyone really surprised by this? Taiwanese are horribly racist towards SE Asian people (of course, they will never admit it). Saying otherwise is just silly.


You can say exactly the same about Mainland Chinese, Korean, and Japanese in terms of racist attitudes towards darker skinned people. On the other hand, their views towards the fair skinned races (Caucasians) are also "racist" but in the opposite way. Many of you experience this first hand.


There are quite a few Taiwanese that aren't so lovey-dovey towards fair skinned races. And for the ones that display the reverse racism you mentioned, you're right to call it racist. It's still a tool to maintain social separation and reinforce the "you as a foreigner" mentality. But I've noticed there are times when the perks I get as a Caucasian are especially superficial, and just below the surface lies a degree of disdain towards me you might associate with your run-of-the-mill type of racist perspective.
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Re: more Taiwanese racism (Taoyuan community petitions foreign workers to leave)

Postby hansioux » 20 Sep 2012, 14:36

After realizing this fact myself back in 1998, I've always been troubled, and have not yet figure out a way to make it clear to other Taiwanese that they are being racist. Because even if you tell them they are racist, and debate with them till they ran out of defences and shut their mouths, they will still not admit they are being racist.
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Re: more Taiwanese racism (Taoyuan community petitions foreign workers to leave)

Postby headhonchoII » 20 Sep 2012, 15:07

Taiwanese don't change their mind. Period. Unless the boss or the parents waiting with a large inheritance to bestow change it for them.
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