Reassessing the Psycho Xiaojie

[GuyInTaiwan]

The fact that this is not an alcohol-fuelled culture is one of its major positives, as far as I am concerned.

[bismarck]

That was a refreshingly different OP. Some food for thought there. About half way done with the thread, but I'm going to have to come back tomorrow. Too late, and I'm buggered!

[bismarck]

Well, it must be cultural then, because it's not physiological. Having a physiological intolerance for alcohol, you'd expect a lot more drunk shagging to be going on.

You'd think so, wouldn't you. When I've seen it happen, though, it works like this: they take one mouthful of beer/wine/etc., and then turn pink and start sweating. If they finish the bottle/glass, they fall over and go to sleep, which isn't very conducive to shagging (except in certain forms of weird Japanese porn). Still, at least people here don't think it's amusing to rampage around glassing each other.

I dunno, man. My SO is not a drinker at all. Not into bars or anything. But I've been out with her to a club or two and even when she's drunk as much as I have she's still lucid and I'm well buggered.

Then again, maybe jimipresley is right and I really am a lightweight.

Are you kidding me? You passed that up?

Just what I was thinking. Obviously, this guy is better at not thinking with his dick than the rest of us.

Call me an easy Man Ho, but that's what I was thinking when I read that.

[Whole Lotta Lotta]

You lifted that straight from the Hess HR department's hiring and training manual.

Yeah, every time I meet someone who got rejected from Hess, I congratulate them.

Hess rejects people ?

[divea]

1.) Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
2.) A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3.) Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4.) Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, excessive spending, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
5.) Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars (excoriation) or picking at oneself.
6.) Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7.) Chronic feelings of emptiness
8.) Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9.) Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms

Errm dunno about Psycho Xiao Jies, but half the men on this forum will get 7 out of 9 on this test. I think you'll have to narrow it down further.........like
1. Does your girl pout and make baby faces and noises?
2. Has she tried to hit you?? Especially in the face? (and pouted later on)
3. Does she seriously believe her tantrum will make you love her?
4. Has she tried to clean your ears in public?
5. Most importantly....does she expect you to be constantly pawing her when out with friends and if you don't, does she feel rejected??
You get the drift, right?

[bismarck]

From this:

1.) Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
2.) A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3.) Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4.) Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, excessive spending, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
5.) Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars (excoriation) or picking at oneself.
6.) Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7.) Chronic feelings of emptiness
8.) Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9.) Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms

To this:

Errm dunno about Psycho Xiao Jies, but half the men on this forum will get 7 out of 9 on this test. I think you'll have to narrow it down further.........like
1. Does your girl pout and make baby faces and noises?
2. Has she tried to hit you?? Especially in the face? (and pouted later on)
3. Does she seriously believe her tantrum will make you love her?
4. Has she tried to clean your ears in public?
5. Most importantly....does she expect you to be constantly pawing her when out with friends and if you don't, does she feel rejected??

And finally:

You get the drift, right?

Not really. You lost me between "half the men on the forum" and then narrowing it down to what "she" possibly does. Did you mean "half the men on the forum" have a "she", i.e. a girlfriend/wife/partner/SO, that possibly does some or all of your mentioned 5 points, and/or would get 7 out of 9 of the points mentioned in the OP?

[finley]

I think she was simply saying that many men also meet the standard DSM-IV criteria for a diagnosis of "psycho xiaojie" (I can't be bothered to look back and see where that list was quoted from, but it looks like the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder). Undoubtedly so, but the symptoms manifest in different ways. Whereas a woman can get away with throwing crockery around the room or threaten suicide if S.O. doesn't do as he's told, and just have her behaviour dismissed as hormonal, a man doing the same thing is (rightly) labelled an abusive asshole and is likely to spend a night in the cells.

Has she tried to clean your ears in public?

Is anyone here prepared to admit this has happened to them? I'm genuinely curious.

EDIT: just reading up on something completely unrelated and came across this little gem (in that font of all knowledge, wikipedia):

Studies have also shown behavioral changes in humans, including slower reaction times and a sixfold increased risk of traffic accidents among infected, RhD-negative males,[14] as well as links to schizophrenia including hallucinations and reckless behavior. Recent epidemiologic studies by Stanley Medical Research Institute and Johns Hopkins University Medical Center indicate that infectious agents may contribute to some cases of schizophrenia.[15][16] A study of 191 young women in 1999 reported higher intelligence and lower guilt proneness in Toxoplasma-positive subjects.[17]

Could widespread toxoplasmosis infection explain Taiwan's preponderance of: psycho xiaojies (and nutjob acid-wielding jealous bf's), school-test savants, and legendarily bad drivers?

[bismarck]

I think she was simply saying that many men also meet the standard DSM-IV criteria for a diagnosis of "psycho xiaojie" (I can't be bothered to look back and see where that list was quoted from, but it looks like the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder).

That's what I originally thought until she said, "I think you'll have to narrow it down further.........like".

And yes, it is criteria for BPD. I think our resident psychologist Superking confirmed that earlier in the thread.

Undoubtedly so, but the symptoms manifest in different ways. Whereas a woman can get away with throwing crockery around the room or threaten suicide if S.O. doesn't do as he's told, and just have her behaviour dismissed as hormonal, a man doing the same thing is (rightly) labelled an abusive asshole and is likely to spend a night in the cells.

That's for damned sure!

[divea]

Undoubtedly so, but the symptoms manifest in different ways. Whereas a woman can get away with throwing crockery around the room or threaten suicide if S.O. doesn't do as he's told, and just have her behaviour dismissed as hormonal, a man doing the same thing is (rightly) labelled an abusive asshole and is likely to spend a night in the cells.

That's for damned sure!

I haven't thrown crockery around, and dunno any woman who has because it really is a mental thing to do and if a girl is doing that....she is just as abusive as any man.

Suicide??? Someone threatens suicide ...RUN!

[Indiana]

Undoubtedly so, but the symptoms manifest in different ways. Whereas a woman can get away with throwing crockery around the room or threaten suicide if S.O. doesn't do as he's told, and just have her behaviour dismissed as hormonal, a man doing the same thing is (rightly) labelled an abusive asshole and is likely to spend a night in the cells.

That's for damned sure!

I haven't thrown crockery around, and dunno any woman who has because it really is a mental thing to do and if a girl is doing that....she is just as abusive as any man.

Suicide??? Someone threatens suicide ...RUN!

My grandmother used to throw crockery at my father when she was pissed off with him as a teenager, but we just laughed it off when he told us about it and called her a 'tough woman.'

But yes, this is very mentally unstable thing to do!!!