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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 30 Apr 2012, 13:11

jimipresley wrote:And people get INDIGNANT when this stuff ends up in Temp ...


Yet as crazy as this is, it's no more or less wacky than anything in "mainstream" religions. The only difference between a cult and a religion is the numbers involved.
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby jimipresley » 30 Apr 2012, 13:22

GuyInTaiwan wrote:
jimipresley wrote:And people get INDIGNANT when this stuff ends up in Temp ...


Yet as crazy as this is, it's no more or less wacky than anything in "mainstream" religions. The only difference between a cult and a religion is the numbers involved.

But it's in DATING & RELATIONSHIPS! :eek:
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 30 Apr 2012, 13:26

jimi: Sure. Religions have all sorts of wacky ideas about what constitutes good dating/marriage/sexual behaviour also.
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby sandman » 30 Apr 2012, 14:26

Where is it cut and pasted from? Easy. Some stupid new agey wanker's blog is where. There are really some DAFT people on the Intarwebs. And if Crystaleye wrote it himself, then he's spamming.
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby Jive Turkey » 30 Apr 2012, 15:03

I think the original poster could really benefit from some grounding exercises:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHmyqSM53n0

The best advice in the video starts around 1:15. :roflmao:
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby ehophi » 23 May 2012, 13:12

I frequent clubs with my girlfriend. I didn't realize that we went there to feed off of each other. We could have just done that at home!

Also, I burn more calories dancing than any fat qigong practitioner in the park is hoping to do, and no matter what you hear about qi, the AMA knows better.

(I did qigong as a teenager and young adult, but gave it up for some basic zhan zhuang, a punching bag, a pull up bar, and sa-weet dance moves!)
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby superking » 23 May 2012, 14:21

Now why can't there be some sort of discussion about chi gong and qi and energy? Why does it have to be the usual gang rape of the person who doesn't fit in with the group? Dont you ALL live in an area of the world where such things are more likely to be believed in? Are replies in this thread secretly saying, "I don't really understand Asia, so I will bang my Western Drum nice and loud once more?" :D

Can anyone explain, scientifically, how concious thought takes place from the jelly goop inside your head? NO. Anyone here like to doubt that they are really having thoughts, and writing down words, and performing reasonably complicated logical continuations? Is everything explainable? Is what is unexplainable not real?

Living things consume and burn off energy and energy never dies (so they say). Is it not possible that we are able to gather energy from sources other than food and liquid? Can we not feel better after 2 mins talking to one person, and feel like chucking it all in after 2 minutes with another? The OP isn't saying going to a club is like going on a diet, or something. Just that in such environments there is a lot of energy around, and that they believe people can feed off of that energy in some way, and that such an environment is not for them. Considering you guys live in a location where such discussions are more likely to be accepted as wisdom than as nonsense I have to wonder what purpose your mocking serves. Does it highlight your isolation and the barriers you have thrown up around yourselves to cope with what seems unfamiliar to you? I dunno. Is it just the usual, pick on the kid who looks/talks/acts differently? Now THAT would be a microaggression. :lol: I suspect it's a mix of lots of things. Dick measuring being prevalent amongst them.

There, now you have a second person to pick on. :D I might not necessarily agree with crystaleye, but I will stand next to them and defend their right to believe in the transfer of energy, and to point out that you lot are the ones being daft. :D :raspberry:
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby TheGingerMan » 23 May 2012, 22:34

superking wrote:Can anyone explain, scientifically, how concious thought takes place from the jelly goop inside your head? NO. Anyone here like to doubt that they are really having thoughts, and writing down words, and performing reasonably complicated logical continuations? Is everything explainable? Is what is unexplainable not real?

Yes. No. No. No.

Living things consume and burn off energy and energy never dies (so they say). Is it not possible that we are able to gather energy from sources other than food and liquid? Can we not feel better after 2 mins talking to one person, and feel like chucking it all in after 2 minutes with another? The OP isn't saying going to a club is like going on a diet, or something. Just that in such environments there is a lot of energy around, and that they believe people can feed off of that energy in some way, and that such an environment is not for them. Considering you guys live in a location where such discussions are more likely to be accepted as wisdom than as nonsense I have to wonder what purpose your mocking serves. Does it highlight your isolation and the barriers you have thrown up around yourselves to cope with what seems unfamiliar to you? I dunno. Is it just the usual, pick on the kid who looks/talks/acts differently? Now THAT would be a microaggression. :lol: I suspect it's a mix of lots of things. Dick measuring being prevalent amongst them.

Don't be obtuse. If the subject entailed anything other than "the clubbing scene", then I would think there would not be much abuse at all.
It's patently obvious that the atmosphere in any given club is bound to be extractive. Even a fucking supermarket is painfully soul-sucking, but so what:
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I'm not picking on you, superking, but I plead that you succumb to some qi.
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Re: Energy Leechers especially in the clubbing scene

Postby ehophi » 03 Jun 2012, 12:36

superking wrote:Now why can't there be some sort of discussion about chi gong and qi and energy? Why does it have to be the usual gang rape of the person who doesn't fit in with the group? Dont you ALL live in an area of the world where such things are more likely to be believed in? Are replies in this thread secretly saying, "I don't really understand Asia, so I will bang my Western Drum nice and loud once more?" :D


Odd, I meet a lot of people here to study Asian history, religion, literature, and philosophy, and yet they don't conceal their judgmental attitudes with New Age mumbo-jumbo. Some people don't like dance clubs: They're dark, smoky, often crowded, and highly sexualized. Some friends of mine don't know how to dance, so see no point to going to dance clubs when they can go to lounge bars, spend a little less, and drink the same amount. Some friends don't drink much and like jogging in the early mornings. At least they admit to stating personal preferences, not casting some thin veneer of objectivity to their personal opinions.

superking wrote:Considering you guys live in a location where such discussions are more likely to be accepted as wisdom than as nonsense I have to wonder what purpose your mocking serves. Does it highlight your isolation and the barriers you have thrown up around yourselves to cope with what seems unfamiliar to you?


I mock people who claim to have special access to esoteric knowledge or self-confirmed, unique insights, and then use their little esotericisms and neologisms to justify any critical judgments that they happen to hold about any given thing. There's no rhetorical difference between hating euthanasia or abortion because of "the sanctity of life," idolizing unquestioning soldiers and people who toe political lines for their "patriotism," and criticizing dance clubs for their "energy-suckingness."

Second, just because things are unfamiliar to some (though I've been around these people for years and years, first as a qigong practitioner myself, and later as a massage therapist where hippies and New Agers comprise over half of the "professionals"), doesn't imply that we should pay attention to them. One simple reason for this is that some uneducated sorts devise their own goofy vocabularies for things that already have descriptions in academic or professional literature. Another reason is that it's easy for people to make theories from the armchair and to test none of them, so there's no point to giving special credence to them just because someone hasn't heard of them before. Some people advocate long-falsified theories and just don't know or accept the relevant data which refutes the legitimacy of a given theory. The list goes on...

To talk about qi specifically, you know that people have tried to measure qi before in the lab, and they've made few correlations to any empirical phenomena. Heck, even qigong "healers" themselves admit that a good portion of what they do is psychoneuroimmunological, which means that you can get similar effects by watching Marx Brothers movies.
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