How well will I do in Taiwan?

[steelersman]

Though I'm sure this point has been discussed in numerous older threads, be careful that your potential gf shares your idea of what "dating" means. Some guys lose interest, or find a better girl to "date," and have the "it's not you, it's me" conversation, thinking that would be the end of that. Some women get their heart broken and react in ways you may not expect. Face/honor may be involved. Especially if penetration was involved.

Thanks for giving a response that does not involve a magic 8-ball prediction I guess I should just make sure to make my intentions clear (whatever they may be) before escalating the physical intimacy?

You make me laugh. You are wet behind the ears. Making your intentions clear won't deter a psycho xiaojie!

[tommy525]

and... penetration is ALWAYS going to be involved now correct? I mean why else would you be involved in the first instance eh?

Be careful with virginal TW girls, because they do NOT understand the meaning of "break up" . Letting you go is not what is on their minds and they won't.

Get the experienced girls, they will let you go .

With the virgins its goes more like "bang me and I do want you to but im a gonna own your ass ".

hey dude, the issue of "break up" not because they are virgin! it's because they don't have experience in "breaking heart". Asian people start dating not as western people that early. Most people have relationship after 20 years old or even later. They don't know how to handle their pain, even boys. So if your goal is breaking people heart, then please stay in your country, they already get used to it. your people will let you go without any problem, they won't even complain you! If women are so wonderful and easy, why wants Asian girls!

Yes good point. Dont go breaking any hearts because the reaction is likely going to be extreme. Its not pretty.

A lot of the younger ladies have no experience in this area so go easy on them. Don't leave them, make them hate you and run away on their own (tommys a pro at this part) .

[ehophi]

If you're a regular guy, you'll get laid once every two weeks if you go out regularly.

If you're creepy, you'll have to settle for once a month.

[CraigTPE]

I'm curious about your plans/intentions.

In my own experience and observations, and not only in Taiwan but just about anywhere I've ever lived (including the US), the "foreigner" is thinking short-term companion/sex-partner/guide/assistant/FWB and the local is thinking forever/til-death-do-us-part. The local gets all twisted over the foreigner, who isn't thinking beyond the end of their stay in that country. Then when the foreigner leaves, or notices that the local is getting a little to serious, and wants to call it off, it gets ugly and complicated.

This gap in expectations and failure to be honest about it seems to break a lot of hearts.

EDIT: By the way, this seems to be true for gay as well as straight encounters......

[Battery9]

hi
Well, if you're coming for only a year, you're going to end whichever relationship you get yourself into. This is the sad part about living in a foreign country. Lots of girls are scared to get too attached because it's very painful to see all the 'can't wait for you to come back' messages on Facebook and sit through going away parties with a fake smile and listen to the awesome adventures you plan for your future.

[CraigTPE]

Lots of girls are scared to get too attached because it's very painful to see all the 'can't wait for you to come back' messages on Facebook and sit through going away parties with a fake smile and listen to the awesome adventures you plan for your future.

The thing that shocks me more are the girls and guys who go through it over and over and over, and still think this one will be different and stay.

[steelersman]

I'm curious about your plans/intentions.

In my own experience and observations, and not only in Taiwan but just about anywhere I've ever lived (including the US), the "foreigner" is thinking short-term companion/sex-partner/guide/assistant/FWB and the local is thinking forever/til-death-do-us-part. The local gets all twisted over the foreigner, who isn't thinking beyond the end of their stay in that country. Then when the foreigner leaves, or notices that the local is getting a little to serious, and wants to call it off, it gets ugly and complicated.

This gap in expectations and failure to be honest about it seems to break a lot of hearts.

EDIT: By the way, this seems to be true for gay as well as straight encounters......

CraigTPE, I appoligize, but I beg to differ. This might be true if you are dating women 30+. However I don't think that many 20-30 year olds these days are thinking about marriage or a long term partner. It may be a little sad, but I really can' see too many women between 20-30 getting too bent out of shape over their boyfriend leaving.

[CraigTPE]

CraigTPE, I appoligize, but I beg to differ. This might be true if you are dating women 30+. However I don't think that many 20-30 year olds these days are thinking about marriage or a long term partner. It may be a little sad, but I really can' see too many women between 20-30 getting too bent out of shape over their boyfriend leaving.

My shoulder is still wet from tears, consoling friends in this situation, both male and female, in their 20's and 30s. That being said, I am only speaking from my own personal experiences, certainly not any scientific survey.

[steelersman]

CraigTPE, I appoligize, but I beg to differ. This might be true if you are dating women 30+. However I don't think that many 20-30 year olds these days are thinking about marriage or a long term partner. It may be a little sad, but I really can' see too many women between 20-30 getting too bent out of shape over their boyfriend leaving.

My shoulder is still wet from tears, consoling friends in this situation, both male and female, in their 20's and 30s. That being said, I am only speaking from my own personal experiences, certainly not any scientific survey.

Maybe in Taiwan. I can't see this happening in Europe or the US.

[CraigTPE]

CraigTPE, I appoligize, but I beg to differ. This might be true if you are dating women 30+. However I don't think that many 20-30 year olds these days are thinking about marriage or a long term partner. It may be a little sad, but I really can' see too many women between 20-30 getting too bent out of shape over their boyfriend leaving.

My shoulder is still wet from tears, consoling friends in this situation, both male and female, in their 20's and 30s. That being said, I am only speaking from my own personal experiences, certainly not any scientific survey.

Maybe in Taiwan. I can't see this happening in Europe or the US.

I remember many white guys in SF who had broken hearts over Asian guys who were there studying in Uni, then dumped them like hot potatoes (pardon the pun, for those familiar with rice/potato) when their studies were over and they went back to their home countries. I can also remember white girls I studied with in Japan who took local bf's, also in their late 20's, and then forgot all about them when they went back to the US. One of the Japanese guys even flew to the US to see his "girlfriend", only to be totally ignored by her.