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Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby Sun Tsu » 19 Oct 2010, 02:56

LT wrote:I am likely the only Taiwanese female to reply to this. And I come here often to read but not post. But I had to respond to this. As someone that lived in Los Angeles for a while it is very funy to hear an American say the guys there are boring! If that is the case (and I am not a self hater) most Taiwanese men, are zombies! :raspberry:

NOT all, but most of our men are brought up to study, work, study, work PC games. Most guys are bad at romance because they don't have time for it, though its changing. You don't know how many of my Taiwanese co-workers and friedns/relatives etc would love to bag a white girl (or latina and yes some even black now!) - Fantasy. Truth is many guys don't have the nerve to talk to you and there are other factors.

You will have to find a guy that traveled or is very openminded. The most sophisticated Taiwanese guys often hang out a jazz clubs, business events, trade shows and concerts which have international acts, etc. This is my experience.

As for kissing, the young guys are getting there but many Taiwanese guys over 30 lack passion or technique. This is not a slight, but just because they get little practice also they watch Hollywood movies and American porn too. So they think western guys are all better and "bigger". As for the bedroom. Guys are influneced by japanese culture. I've been to the doctors office and male doctors (Taiwanese) have told me 10-15 minutes of sex is enough! TRUE. Some girls in the office talk about how their guys can last 20 minutes on good nights. And ask local girls about how local men may get angry if you want to switch positions! :noway:

That being said there are some Taiwanese men that are fun, interesting, sexy and good lovers. BUT you have to go on a mission to find them. They 're slowly getting better :cool: . When I lived in L.A. my cousin came to visit and he had a few white girls all over him. That is because he surfs, has a 6 pack, does kendo and was confident form living in Australia for 4 years. THEY ARE OUT THERE GOOD LUCK!

Oh and all the foreign guys are not American right! The guy I was dated last year was Afro-Brazilian-German! :lick:


LT, the reason most Taiwanese men (and most Asian men) have to work and study because LIFE IS HARD in that part of the world. You think everyone lives like middle-class Americans who can afford to buy fancy clothes and cars and play kendo and guitar and surf? Doing all those things takes MONEY. Not everyone has the same resources and opportunities as those in the most advanced nations. Taiwan is NOT like the first world, and much of Asia is 2nd or 3rd world at best. And throughout human history the only thing that enables people to improve their socioeconomic status is THROUGH EDUCATION. Man, western culture really did some job on you people, didn't it, since there SO MANY Asian women who think like you do. You go to western countries thinking you can learn more about the world, but instead you come back and trash your own people.

Instead of comparing 2nd or 3rd world Asian men against 1st world western men, you really should compare them on an EQUAL FOOTING. Try comparing Asian men and western men in a similar socioeconomic background, such as Asian-Americans against white Americans. Take a look at this regarding interracial marriages in the US: http://www.articlesbase.com/dating-articles/interracial-dating-trends-1125675.html . The 2008 US census data show there are actually 193000 out of 2991400 Asian men married to white women, and that's 6.5%; and only 713000 out of 56249000 white men are married to Asian women, and that's only 1.6%. In other words, we Asian men whom you think are so inferior and undesirable to women are actually MORE LIKELY to get white women than white guys getting our women. And that's IN America, in white guys' own backyard. Oh but there's more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/07/AR2009030701841.html . This article says Asian-American women are now more and more likely to marry their own kind because they realize white guys ain't all that; hence, their interracial marriage rate fell from 42 to 33% during '90-'00. FANCY THAT! Together with the fact that Asian-Americans have lower unemployment rate than whites (7.5% vs 10% according to http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-11-15-asians_N.htm ) and the fact Asian kids do so well in high schools that white kids actually have to RELOCATE to avoid academic competition with Asian kids ( http://wsjclassroom.com/teen/teencenter/05nov_whiteflight.htm ) just show that when put in an EQUAL FOOTING, Asian men can hang with white men any time anywhere.

So LT, feel free to trash Asian men as often as you can if it makes you FEEL BETTER. There's really nothing wrong with our culture, our men, and our abilities to make women happy.

P.S. Now here are just a few samples of Asian-American men married to white women. Note that these are circa 2004 with last names beginning with C only, but you get the picture they are actually quite prevalent:
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Re: dating advice for white girls?

Postby xiaojuan » 19 Oct 2010, 04:36

Good lord, you sound hysterical. If LT likes the American flavor, then let freedom friggin' ring and let her do and think what she wants about them. There's no need for you to get all insecure about her choices, not to mention start making comparisons that make no sense. If you feel so confident in Taiwanese men and think they have their assets, then there is no need to compare them to any other kind of men. I'm Taiwanese American and I can tell you with much confidence that Taiwanese men are NOT AT ALL the same as Asian American men. You could not possibly compare those two on supposed "equal footing" because their cultures and environments are entirely different. Let's not forget about how your comparison is completely imbalanced, with one side of Asian Americans "competing" against the remaining population of a gazillion different ethnicities, and the other one with just Taiwanese men and a small pool of other minorities, who I noticed you didn't bother to do a whole lot of research for.

Sun Tsu wrote:Oh but there's more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01841.html . This article says Asian-American women are now more and more likely to marry their own kind because they realize white guys ain't all that; hence, their interracial marriage rate fell from 42 to 33% during '90-'00. FANCY THAT!


Oh please. Do you even read the articles that you reference? Let's just talk about that Washington Post article. Did you see the part that people are likely to date or marry people of the same ethnicity because they don't have to stress out about cultural differences? I don't want to date Taiwanese men because it would drive me crazy. I don't agree with too many aspects of Taiwanese culture and behavior, and I'm sure a Taiwanese man wouldn't be agree with my own.

If you don't like that LT and other Taiwanese women aren't interested in Taiwanese men, I say get over it. Their partner is their choice, and most certainly not yours. Being a man of a country any less developed than the US is not an excuse for being unattractive to any woman. I find so many American men unattractive because some of them are actually uneducated and oblivious about the world. You know what I find funny? The vast majority of Taiwanese men have had a college education, and they still still act uneducated and oblivious. Now, that I find REALLY unattractive.

I don't give a flip about money, so for me socioeconomic status means nothing. I care about peoples' interests, hobbies, and goals. I look for manners and an ability to articulate your feelings or your thoughts. If you're a bumbling idiot with no aspirations, you don't know what to do but work, and you don't know how to treat women right, I'm not interested, doesn't matter what kinds of excuses you manage to make for yourself.
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Re: dating advice for white girls?

Postby tommy525 » 19 Oct 2010, 06:31

Whats the word for that? Oh yeah WORD !
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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby sandman » 19 Oct 2010, 17:20

Comparing men from different cultures fair? Of course not! I'm Scottish, and it would therefore be completely unfair to even hope for a second that men from any other culture in the world could even come CLOSE to my magnificence. As IF!
Although its fun to read the rants of these Azn Pride fellows. Poor wee saps.
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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby divea » 19 Oct 2010, 17:24

Great First post, Sun Tsu!!! Food for thought.

This post was split from http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=90489 and I find it completely absurd that men can be racially rated on their kissing and sexual prowess. Who does the research? Who defines 'better'??? And how good are the foreign women (and men)themselves at kissing and in bed or in a relationship that they can tag a whole bunch of men as being 'good' or 'not so good'.


Oh and this,


Gao Bohan wrote:How amusing. A foreign woman starts a thread by declaring her interest in Asian men and her complete lack of interest in foreign men. She follows by asking for tips on how to bag said local males, which she receives with great aplomb from foreign men and women alike.

Switch "woman" with "man" in the above paragraph and we'd have a thousand posts decrying everything from racism to colonialism to the objectification of women. Exhausted mods would be editing dozens of posts, sending whole pages to the temp forum, and banning posters left and right. The thread would already have gone on 50 pages and would be locked permanently. Double standards?



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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby divea » 19 Oct 2010, 17:28

sandman wrote:Comparing men from different cultures fair? Of course not! I'm Scottish, and it would therefore be completely unfair to even hope for a second that men from any other culture in the world could even come CLOSE to my magnificence. As IF!
Although its fun to read the rants of these Azn Pride fellows. Poor wee saps.


If you lived in TW for like 30 years, you would still be magnificent, and the fact that you wear panty-less red skirts at home has got nothing to with it. :)
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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby the chief » 19 Oct 2010, 17:29

sandman wrote:Comparing men from different cultures fair? Of course not! I'm Scottish, and it would therefore be completely unfair to even hope for a second that men from any other culture in the world could even come CLOSE to my magnificence. As IF!
Although its fun to read the rants of these Azn Pride fellows. Poor wee saps.


Absofuckinlutely.
As long as Scotsmen walk the earth, comparison with ANY other mantype is cruel and unfair.

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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby Satellite TV » 19 Oct 2010, 17:45

divea wrote:Great First post, Sun Tsu!!! Food for thought.

This post was split from http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=90489 and I find it completely absurd that men can be racially rated on their kissing and sexual prowess. Who does the research? Who defines 'better'??? And how good are the foreign women (and men)themselves at kissing and in bed or in a relationship that they can tag a whole bunch of men as being 'good' or 'not so good'.


Oh and this,


Gao Bohan wrote:How amusing. A foreign woman starts a thread by declaring her interest in Asian men and her complete lack of interest in foreign men. She follows by asking for tips on how to bag said local males, which she receives with great aplomb from foreign men and women alike.

Switch "woman" with "man" in the above paragraph and we'd have a thousand posts decrying everything from racism to colonialism to the objectification of women. Exhausted mods would be editing dozens of posts, sending whole pages to the temp forum, and banning posters left and right. The thread would already have gone on 50 pages and would be locked permanently. Double standards?



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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby divea » 19 Oct 2010, 17:47

There should be 2 Men's forums, one for all those expats and one for the Taiwanese citizens :p
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Re: Comparing men from diff. cultures. Fair?

Postby MilkTeaJack » 19 Oct 2010, 17:48

No. There are Scots. And then there are men in undershirts, plastic shower sandals leering at women who ride by on their bikes.

Clearly, I am more manly than Scots given the above equation!
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