Hotness Delusion Syndrome

[steev]

Which one has the hotness delusion? Some guy makes small talk to her in a museum, she found him boring and unnattractive, so she writes a snarky little column accusing him of "hotness delusion" because a slob like him should obviously know better than to try and talk to such a smoking hottie as her. I guess I must suffer from hotness delusion syndrome for having the audacity to talk to girls. Apparently, unless you look like Brad Pitt, some women will take offense at your trying to chat them up.

http://www.divinecaroline.com/22070/115 ... sh-hotness

What a bizarre article!
1. the reason a guy like that acts like that isnt because he thinks he's a hot item... its because he's old and shameless. and he knows that that's (being shameless) half the battle. If he stopped to worry about the fact he's fat, old and bald he'd get nowhere... and he probably when he was young worried about being skinny, hairy and young...
2. Women are so riduculous. They think they can dress like a tart and only cool rich handsome guys that look like Brad Pitt (or how he used to look like 20 yrs ago) will ogle them. in fact, all guys like to ogle women dressed as tarts, and the old ones are just rather more shameless about it. duhh....
additional note - single men ageed 40 may be in short supply, but who's to say mr Romeo was single? being married never stopped a shameless middle-aged guy ogling a fit young bird...

[steev]

Seriously, the last time I tried pulling in a bar, the woman I wound up with, somehow the conversation steered towards the end of the night about my penis and what its exact measurements were, before she would agree to go home with me. This was....what's the word?....skanky, way too skanky for me. Cute and hot, but even I've got standards.

Now, there's a thing. I had a conversation like that just a couple of weeks ago (although not in a bar). Skanky? Didn't seem like that to me ... she just had, uh, high standards. Or in this case, long standards.

you folks never heard of lying? and then when the time comes, just have a bedroom lighting malfunction, or say you're shy... the Thai hookers do it all the time...

[finley]

Telling the truth works for me

Anyway, I think Quentin's point that he was put off by the question itself, not by the fact that he didn't have a good answer - who knows, maybe she didn't know what she was missing.

[Quentin]

Anyway, I think Quentin's point that he was put off by the question itself

About a month or so ago I was waiting at the bus stop and this girl sitting next to me started going off about how long it had been since she'd been laid. Now, if I'd been the only other person around, it would have been unmistakeable why she would have brought the subject up But as there were several other people around, it seemed an odd thing to be loudly complaining about in public and bringing up as a conversation starter with complete strangers. "Yeah, I have my vibrator, but that's not good enough....what I really get off on is the hugging, kissing, touching, skin on skin, the touching and intimacy." A pretty average looking woman, in her 20s and not bad looking by any means....but even if I'd been in the mood, it would've been pretty embarrassing for me to say in public, "Lady, your problems are solved, my place is a short walk from the bus stop." And honestly, wouldn't most of the rest of you guys be turned off by that sort of talk? I mean, she wasn't in a bar and didn't have the excuse of being drunk. It made me suspect that perhaps she wasn't right in the head, because normal sane women don't go begging for sex in public.

[housecat]

Anyway, I think Quentin's point that he was put off by the question itself

About a month or so ago I was waiting at the bus stop and this girl sitting next to me started going off about how long it had been since she'd been laid. Now, if I'd been the only other person around, it would have been unmistakeable why she would have brought the subject up But as there were several other people around, it seemed an odd thing to be loudly complaining about in public and bringing up as a conversation starter with complete strangers. "Yeah, I have my vibrator, but that's not good enough....what I really get off on is the hugging, kissing, touching, skin on skin, the touching and intimacy." A pretty average looking woman, in her 20s and not bad looking by any means....but even if I'd been in the mood, it would've been pretty embarrassing for me to say in public, "Lady, your problems are solved, my place is a short walk from the bus stop." And honestly, wouldn't most of the rest of you guys be turned off by that sort of talk? I mean, she wasn't in a bar and didn't have the excuse of being drunk. It made me suspect that perhaps she wasn't right in the head, because normal sane women don't go begging for sex in public.

Surely, surely she was talking on the phone via one of those almost invisable bluetooth deals, or something. You know, chatting with her girlfriend about the drought and forgetting where she was? Otherwise, yeah she had to have been just a little off. Or way WAY loose.

[msleft]

I also do not understand why people still claim, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that Taiwan is a heaven for white guys trying to pick up women. I suppose it would be different if I didn't speak Mandarin like a 5 year old, but the vast majority of foreigners here rarely reach even that level of fluency. Going out to bars/clubs or walking around the supermarket, it was clear that 95% were simply not interested in me or white guys in general. Or so it seemed? I came to understand that "chatting up" doesn't work in Taiwan, not the same way it works back home. Taiwanese women seem to have a taboo about meeting male strangers. You must be introduced or have some sort of pre-existing social connection via work, school, or friends for them to have a plausible excuse for talking to you. You can't just strike up a random conversation with a stranger in Taiwan, not with normal people, it seems (the psychos are a whole 'nother story).

I agree. Not exclusively to male strangers, but to strangers in general. I don't know if you've heard about "Jin Guangdang" some kind of notorious scam in Taiwan. Anyway there are too many such or similar scams being reported in Taiwan. So many people tend to stay cautious when some strangers approach them.

[Johnwilliamson062]

"I also do not understand why people still claim, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that Taiwan is a heaven for white guys trying to pick up women."

I don't know how some of the guys on here have trouble meeting women in Taiwan. Maybe when you say pick up you mean strictly one night stands. It is oh so easy for me, and not that easy in the US. You have to put in a little time, but not that much and no grand romantic gestures or high bar tabs need be accumulated. If you want a one night stand you might be out of luck. I never run that game, but as far as getting a girlfriend, you can get a smoking hot well educated one with very little work.

There are basically three reasons western guys come to Taiwan(in my experience):
1.Women
2.Anime
3.Martial arts
4.Learn Chinese for business/military career

I went for the 4th and was more than happy with the amount of 1 and 3 that piled on to me without much effort at all on my part.

[steev]

"I also do not understand why people still claim, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that Taiwan is a heaven for white guys trying to pick up women."

Maybe a few of these guys were having no luck at all back home, heard it was easy here, and came over... but hey, you still do need chatting-up skills, its just the bar is a lot lower here... but thats not to say there is no bar at all..
I think the only real Heaven with the 72 virgins for every guy is limited to a certain religion...

[Mucha Man]

There are basically three reasons western guys come to Taiwan(in my experience):
1.Women
2.Anime
3.Martial arts
4.Learn Chinese for business/military career

People come here to work or study Chinese. Unless they are self-supporting, the others aren't an option and in any case most have no idea what taiwan is like before they arrive. The notion people are committing a year or two of their lives to live someone they have barely heard of for the promise of women they know nothing about is fanciful at best.

[zyzzx]

There are basically three reasons western guys come to Taiwan(in my experience):
1.Women
2.Anime
3.Martial arts
4.Learn Chinese for business/military career

People come here to work or study Chinese. Unless they are self-supporting, the others aren't an option and in any case most have no idea what taiwan is like before they arrive. The notion people are committing a year or two of their lives to live someone they have barely heard of for the promise of women they know nothing about is fanciful at best.

Well, there do seem to be an awful lot who come because of a woman - a Taiwanese wife or girlfriend that they met in their home country. So number 1 doesn't seem so far off.