How many horses need die before it ends?

[tommy525]

http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/st ... in-041412/

Steeple chase should end. And so should bull fighting. Unnecessary and brutal these "sports".

[sulavaca]

I guess it will end if people no longer find it entertaining. Personally I don't find horse racing entertaining for the same reasons you protest. I like horse racing movies though, if they are filmed well. Ending animal cruelty as some define it will not end though. Animals will always be subject to hierarchy as are the laws of nature. It's what drives creationalism, sorry, evolution. Will we evolve to become herbivores and respect the existence of all living creatures? I don't know. I'm willing to bet that it won't happen any time soon though if it does happen at all. Perhaps starting with sports might be the beginning of a global human movement towards the respect and air treatment of animals. Perhaps it won't. There will often be two sides to this argument, and I don't believe that one side is necessarily correct. Humans have been eating and abusing other animal species since I don't know when, and many other animals do the same. Is this a necessary part of nature? I'll leave that for you to decide. I'm not confident enough to provide an answer on that one.
I generally try to live without going out of my way to abuse other animal species, but I still abuse them as a by product of living.

[omerojs]

I really don't see how can you compare bull fighting with horse racing...
I have nothing against horse racing as it is a sport, most of those horses have a "king's life" in some way, they eat super special food, travel in first class, get proper life style, lots of exercise and many other things... accidents happen all the time.. for example a man in a bycicle hit by a man in a car... or a kid falling of slide.. but that is not cruelty.. its just an accident..
if you want to complain about animal abuse then how about illegal dog fighting which is common in central and south Taiwan, or bull fighting which I do find a horrible act.. and many other activities that involve animal cruelty...

[sandman]

One dead steeplechaser can feed a whole SHITLOAD of abandoned dogs, don't forget.

[Ducked]

One dead steeplechaser can feed a whole SHITLOAD of abandoned dogs, don't forget.

Seems a waste. Horsemeat is really nice, and hard to find outside France.

(The dogs could have the bones, though.)

[jimipresley]

Stop it with the snark already, lads. This is Pets and Other Animals, not International Politics.

Now, if tommy were sincere and didn't eat meat nor wear leather, I would have Temped your posts.

[Ducked]

Allright.

Before I go to bed though (checking for horses heads, Godfather stylee) I'll make the obvious point that always seems to escape my Ching Hai acquaintances when promulgating pictures of peaceful porkers.

If there is no steeplechasing (which I'm not interested in, and don't care to defend) there will be no steeplechasers, dead or alive.

EDIT:

IOW, LOTS of horses need to die if and when it ends.

Its our world. Poor it and poor us.

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[tommy525]

Stop it with the snark already, lads. This is Pets and Other Animals, not International Politics.

Now, if tommy were sincere and didn't eat meat nor wear leather, I would have Temped your posts.

ITs not a case of eating meat. Its a case of cruelty to animals. Animals to be slaughtered for meat is in itself sad yes. And we probably should all eat a whole lot less meat. I myself try to restrict my meat to chickens rather then cattle or pigs. Believing they are prehaps less evolved. Maybe a wrong concept.

The matter is pain and unnecessary suffering.

We have seen slaughter house abuse of animals. Very wrong. Animals who are to be slaughtered for meat should not undergo undue duress or physical pain.

Using animals in such a way (bullfighting, less so steeple chase) is cruel and non necessary infliction of pain and suffering.


Its one thing to be killed, but to the TORTURED and killed is quite another.

[Ducked]

Animals should only be killed by a head or heart shot from a Mannlicher-Schönauer 6.5, fired from within charging range, in the early morning after rain, when the plains are covered with small white flowers.

Only the steadiest sort of chap can manage that with a chicken.

[tommy525]

Animals should only be killed by a head or heart shot from a Mannlicher-Schönauer 6.5, fired from within charging range, in the early morning after rain, when the plains are covered with small white flowers.

Only the steadiest sort of chap can manage that with a chicken.

Indeed, it would be very hard to drop a large bull using only a chicken.