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Hippo injured in transport

Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby Hokwongwei » 29 Dec 2014, 15:48

Screw that. If that's the case, it's Tianma's responsibility to make sure they keep the public away. You're not getting out of this one so easily, mister.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby Icon » 29 Dec 2014, 15:51

Hokwongwei wrote:Screw that. If that's the case, it's Tianma's responsibility to make sure they keep the public away. You're not getting out of this one so easily, mister.


For starters. Even my biologist colleague, who would love to have that hippo stuffed, and I don't mean to eat, but taxidermy, said the veterinary must have been _________ to say something so silly.

Truth be told, hundreds of people visited the animal at the pond. A feeble chicken wire fence separated them from the animal. Again, safety... my foot.

EDIT:
Seems there was internal bleeding involved...
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby urodacus » 29 Dec 2014, 17:58

Icon wrote:Seems there was internal bleeding involved...



No shit, sherlock.

Fancy that.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby Icon » 29 Dec 2014, 21:49

urodacus wrote:
Icon wrote:Seems there was internal bleeding involved...



No shit, sherlock.

Fancy that.


Well, since the vet said it was the crowd's fault and the initial cause of death was "stopped breathing"...

If you read the Chinese, it says there were massive tears between the lungs and stomach and that may - they are the ones saying may - have caused bleeding sufficient leading to the hippocampus's demise. But no final word is yet given. This is called initial finding.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby tommy525 » 30 Dec 2014, 00:28

Does anyone know any background? The hippo was 32 years old. Was it born in captivity in Taiwan? How did it get there. Where has it been living for the last 32 years? Etc.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby Icon » 30 Dec 2014, 09:47

Good questions. So far, as to his untimely death:

Taipei, Dec. 29 (CNA) An autopsy confirmed Monday that A He, the hippo that first jumped from a moving truck and later fell several meters, died from a torn diaphragm.

The Taipei Zoo, which performed the autopsy, said there was a 30-40 centimeter rupture on the right side of the hippo's diaphragm, which caused a lung to slip from the chest cavity to the abdominal cavity.

Zoo spokesman Tsao Hsien-shao said the rupture may have occurred when the 1,190-kilogram A He was first injured on Friday, but the problem was ignored because it was hard to detect.

Tsao explained that it is difficult for X-rays to produce comprehensive results on large-sized mammals, and the X-rays and other tests done indicated that A He had not suffered from a fracture or hemorrhage, according to the zoo.


Early findings had pointed out to other probable causes:
A preliminary examination by veterinarians shows that the animal may have died from toxins in the blood caused by intestinal problems as a result of the injuries, according to Taichung's Agriculture Bureau.

An autopsy will be performed on the hippo to determine the cause of the death, the bureau said.


The owner is being charged, fined, etc.

Taipei, Dec. 29 (CNA) Municipal authorities in Taichung have decided to hand the death of a hippopotamus that suffered severe injuries while being transported to the district prosecutors office, which is expected to charge the owner of the exotic animal with animal abuse.
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The city will file charges against Skyzoo's operator for violating the Animal Protection Act because the owner failed to protect the hippo, said Wang Jiun-shong, director of Taichung's Agriculture Bureau.

Wang, who said he is saddened by the death, also pledged to review his own department's conduct and the apparent lack of oversight that allowed A He to be subject to the conditions that ultimately doomed it.


I am also curious about where A-He came from and how did he end up in that park. Early accounts said:

According to the owner of "A He," the animal was originally a gift from the Kaohsiung City government to the Taichung County government (now part of the Taichung City). But Taichung County later gave the hippo to the Taichung farm after finding it was not capable of taking good care of it.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby tommy525 » 30 Dec 2014, 10:39

Heads need to roll on this case. IF a govt entity gave or sold him to a private entity. That is a red flag.

HEADS NEED TO ROLL !!
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby hansioux » 30 Dec 2014, 15:00

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1419 ... A.55C.html

According to this ex-employee , who used the typical "I had a dream a couple of days ago" routine to expose information on PTT, said that at first working at Tian-ma was a joy. There were plenty of open space for the animals to roam, and the animals were happy and taken good care off. The owner used to genuinely loved the animal's company, and would spend hours sitting by the pond, watching his favorite animal, the swans. "A-he" the hippo, who was given to Tian-ma by the Taichung county zoo, would stroll around the grounds after his afternoon swim and relax on a field of grass.

It all changed when Tian-ma introduced Alpacas. Back then some internet meme gave Alpacas the name of Caonima (Grassmud horse), which sounds similar to a curse phrase. The Alpacas became an instant hit and tourists swarmed Tian-ma just to get a look of these Alpacas.

What happened then is the private zoo lacked the guts to just set a limit for the numbers of interactions their animals can get per day. So horsed used to at most give 50 people a ride per day, now they give 50 people a ride per hour. Baby Kangaroos used to get get 10 people to hug them at most, that include staffs developing a trust with them, now they get over 300 people hugging them.

The tourists would threaten the zoo to sue if they don't get "their money's worth." If they are told the kangaroos need to take a break from people touching them, they'd demand to get their money back. The tourists also often handled the animals brutally, refuse to listen to instructions, basically would do whatever they wanted to do, or it's time for their money back. People would hug the animal while screeching, hug it way too tight, and when their 3 seconds are up, the animal would end up in someone else's lap and someone else would be flashing a DSLR's external flashlight at it.

What's worse is that new investors took over the management, and the management simply stopped caring about the animals. Gone are the huge grass fields where the animals rest, replaced by buildings after buildings of restaurants and shops. The animals are forced into tiny confinements when they get off their brutal shifts. The baby kangaroos can't handle the stress of being handled by so many people, they would tremble and have running stomach and die from the stress itself. The horses would give rides till it can no longer standup.

When the animals are too sick to work, they are left to die. The park would simply buy a new animal to replace them. The newly purchased animals would have no time to get accustomed to their new environment and be put to work immediately. The staff now have no time to develop any kind of meaningful relationship with the animals, and are unable to offer the animals any comfort. They would cry and sweep as their beloved animals pass away from the stress and abuse, but no one in the management would care.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby Hokwongwei » 30 Dec 2014, 16:42

There was an article on ETToday that said we, the people, are to blame for A He's death. That's complete bs. Zoos and any venue with display animals should operate on the basic assumption that visitors are childish imbeciles who always make the worst decision possible at any time. That's why real zoos have railings -- they don't want to wait for guests to fall in first before installing such basic safety mechanisms. If visitors are treating animals poorly, it's up to management to educate or remove them. If the problem persists, they need to find a long-term solution. We're not experts. We don't know if it hurts the hippo for us to just look at him. The experts and managers need to take control when there is a problem instead of waiting for it to end tragically and then jumping out to say "See, I told you so!" It's that simple.

This is the gist of what I commented on the ETToday article, but I got a few negative comments basically telling me people are evil and zoos are evil and I should shut up if I don't want to be locked up my whole life. Yeah, they missed my point pretty badly.
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Re: Hippo injured in transport

Postby Icon » 18 Nov 2015, 10:17

Not only is the awful so called zoo/leisure farm still open, but also it is still mishandling animals:

Taipei, Nov. 17 (CNA) Skyzoo, a "leisure farm" in Taichung, has retrieved two of three false gharials that escaped from the farm in July, including the latest one, recovered Monday.
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The false gharial is listed as an endangered species by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN), as the population is estimated at below 2,500 mature individuals.

In July, Skyzoo sent 11 juvenile crocodiles from its breeding farm in Jiayi County to its leisure farm and reported to the Agriculture Bureau for verification, in accordance with relevant regulations.

Tachia police received a report a few days ago that someone had caught a young crocodile that was later identified as a false gharial and was believed to belong to Skyzoo, according to the Agriculture Bureau.

The Agriculture Bureau has fined Skyzoo for violating the Wildlife Conservation Act.

The Agriculture Bureau urged the public Tuesday to report to relevant authorities if they find the still-missing false gharial.

This is not the first time Skyzoo has sparked controversy. In December 2014, the Taichung city government took legal action against Skyzoo for animal abuse after "A He," a hippo, died after sustaining serious injuries while it was being transported.



*sigh*
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