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Cat problem - need some help here

Postby twonavels » 18 Oct 2005, 00:21

I couldn't stand closing the door at night. I want my kitties snoozling next to me, so the playing technique is better for me. In fact I'm going to be waking the little buggers and doing that right now.
Cheers!

Edit: Whaha, Stray Dog. Actually I wouldn't mind being neutered. Would solve a lot of life's little problems.
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Postby Tally » 18 Oct 2005, 12:53

yangdemei wrote:Also, if you get up and play with him, feed him, or give him any kind of response, you are reinforcing the behavior. All he wants is some attention of any kind, negative or positive.

Do you keep your bedroom door open so he can come in if he wants to visit? Some cats don't like to feel alone or not be able to see their owners.


I do keep the bedroom door open so he can come in as he pleases, but this also means that he gets on the bed and meows into my face to wake me up! I find that if I don't respond with some water spraying, he will meow for hours on end. We play with him when we get home, but we don't always get a chance to do so...

maybe you guys are right, we should spend more time playing with him and making him tired. Getting birds and other small creatures to keep him busy is simply impossible for us now. I am also hoping this is something he will grow out of and won't make his next owner miserable!

Thanks guys :notworthy:
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Postby Stray Dog » 18 Oct 2005, 12:58

Tally, if you want some info on how to take your cat home with you, let me know. It's quite simple, and would mean that you wouldn't have to lose the cat that you love so much, and your cat wouldn't feel abandoned.

Let me know. :wink:

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Postby Tally » 19 Oct 2005, 19:11

Stray Dog wrote:Tally, if you want some info on how to take your cat home with you, let me know. It's quite simple, and would mean that you wouldn't have to lose the cat that you love so much, and your cat wouldn't feel abandoned.

Let me know. :wink:

Sean


Thanks Sean... I really am heartbroken at leaving our cat here :( . We are going on a 6 months trip to South America and simply cannot take him with us (I would have taken him with me otherwise). But, you'll be happy to know that his new mom is a good friend of ours and he knows her well. He also stays with her every so often for a few days. I decided to do this so he could get used to her place before we actually leave him there for good. Now it's like a special weekend for him - he gets to go there and be spoiled rotten by his aunti, and then come home to us.

I do love my kitty... But I feel good knowing he will have a loving home to go to.
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Postby Stray Dog » 19 Oct 2005, 19:16

Well, you've certainly thought a lot about this and what's best for the cat.

Good luck!

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Re: Cat problem - need some help here

Postby ranlee » 22 Dec 2015, 12:26

Hey guys, a bump to this old thread, since I didn't find anything remotely close to a general cat problem thread.

Long story short, my gf and I are concerned about her roommate's cat, Moon Moon. Here's the back story:

Moon's owner (gf's roommate) does not really take care of her cat so my gf and I feel responsible for the cat since we're at the apt most often.

Moon sometimes doesn't get her cat litter box cleaned for almost a week after it has been dirty. Last time Moon did his business right outside the litter box and my gf told her roommate. Roommate cleaned it up and paid zero attention to the litter box. WTF?

We recently noticed that his cat food dispenser was almost empty, resulting in when the auto feed was suppose to dispense food, the incorrect amount was coming out.

There's also a third roommate that does not like Moon and I've heard that she used to yell and hit him when he was naughty.

So, the main issue is, recently when my gf has been coming home, Moon has been walking out into the stairwell, which he's NEVER done..ever. He's a house cat and is very afraid of leaving the house (even scared when on the front and back balcony). If we're holding him and take a step out onto the balcony he starts meowing like there's no tomorrow. So, we are not sure whether he's trying to get away bc he thinks he's getting mistreated or if there's something else we are missing?

I know some of you guys may say that I should report gf's roommate for mistreating Moon, personally, I would, but I'm just a third party in this and it's up to my gf if she wants to take action. All I really care about is what I can do for Moon. Any feedback would be awesome.
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Re: Cat problem - need some help here

Postby Icon » 22 Dec 2015, 15:29

One reason we do not like to give cats to college students is because when they start working or move around, they tend to abandon their pets. In general, and yes, there are exceptions, they do not show much maturity and attachment and it shows when at the end of the school year there are so many mature cats abandoned/lost/etc. The excuse is that their parents will not take them.

I am afraid that Moon is probably not even spayed/neutered, so maybe he/she is looking for a mate? Otherwise, basically, cats will look for a clean place to empty their bowels, and it has to be private. If they feel threatened when doing number 1 or number 2, there will be very serious problems derived thereof.

Aside from cleaning the box yourself -which is not your duty- keeping an eye for Moon's safety is key. I really appreciate that you say you do not like cats but are still moved by the plight of this innocent. Please check her if you can for signs of physical stress and injuries. And keep an ear out for her issues: it is also customary here to pass pets around like a piece of stale, unwanted fruitcake from last Christmas. If she needs a new home, try to help to prevent him/her ending up in a public shelter/a mountain top/the closest alley. TaiwanSPCA may help also.
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Re: Cat problem - need some help here

Postby ranlee » 23 Dec 2015, 14:20

Thanks Icon, I knew you'd come to the rescue!

Yes, I told my gf that we should draw the line at taking care of his litter box and food dispenser. The most we can do is tell Moon's mom when she's home. Otherwise, we know that stuff won't be done.

Unfortunately, can't blame the roommate as a university student that doesn't want to take responsibility or parents unwilling to allow a cat in the house. She's in the next phase of her life, occupied with getting married to a wealthy boyfriend (I hear they're engaged already) and having everything done for her. Gf and I have lost count of how many days the full garbage bags have been sitting out on the front balcony.

FYI Moon has been spayed and neutered.

My gf added that when she came in the door, Moon would walk out, but not wander too far, but would look down the (3 flights of) stairs to look for something or someone. However, we were just concerned he might make a run for it, so any kind of movement out the apt was considered a run in our minds.

Alas, I think we may have found out what's wrong with Moon. My gf was home yesterday and Moon's mom came in the door and Moon did not run out the door. I think he was missing mom?
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Re: Cat problem - need some help here

Postby Icon » 23 Dec 2015, 14:46

It is sad to say, but pets do form attachments to people. That is why it hurts to see them being passed around without consideration to their feelings.

However, in this case, I think you or your GF should offer to take over Moon's care... then find her a new home through Taiwan SPCA. I really fear not that Moon will be neglected, but rather just "lost" between the cracks of a new life. One walk out there for a cat that has never before stepped out... will be deadly.
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Re: Cat problem - need some help here

Postby hansioux » 23 Dec 2015, 15:42

I think icon has the issue covered.

I would address the walking out the door part. Usually a cat sneaking out the door has nothing to do with how she is treated in the house. Cats are territorial and exploring usually means they have observed the space long enough for them to feel they could stake it as their own. The excitement of you and your gf returning might also embolden Moon to explore a bit. The problem is the more Moon does this, the more she would feel like this is the way things goes, and venture even farther. So if you do not wish Moon to go into that space, try to use your legs, bags, purses to form a barrier and gently shuffle Moon away from the door.

Another possibility is that Moon has been seeing other cats or animals outside, and she feels like her territory is being trespassed. So she might want to get out there and reclaim the area. Usually this is less likely to happen for spayed or neutered cats, but some cats really care about their territory. If that's the case then there are two ways to approach this. A. Prevent those animals from getting inside of her territory, which is super hard to do in a urban environment. B. walk Moon on a leash around those areas, so she feel secure about it, which isn't possible at your present situation. It's the more unlikely scenario anyway.

If the room mate really doesn't have time to clean after Moon, maybe her rich boyfriend could afford to buy a self-cleaning sandbox. If he is really rich, tell her to get the catgenie. It needs to be connected to a tap water supply and a sewage drain.

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It's not ideal... but it's better than Moon's sandbox being dirty for a whole week. By the way, the ideal number of sandboxes for a single cat household is 2.
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