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What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby fenlander » 26 Nov 2010, 14:08

suiyuan31 wrote:I have to admit I often feel overwhelmed by the amount of abuse I see here.
Last week, I was out having a smoke on my balcony and I hear this guy yelling at his dog to come, over and over. I dip my head over and see that the dog is not leashed, and it's a schnauzer...probably the worst breed I can think of not to leash, lol. So I'm watching this idiot trying to get his dog to stay with him as he walks, the dog finally comes to him and what does he do? He wacks it on the ass with a switch. Now I'm just pissed :fume:

So forget for a second that hitting a dog is abusive...how fucking dumb is this guy? He's trying to teach the dog to come to him by hitting him? And he wonders why the dog won't come to him? And this is how he is trying to train his dog to be leashless?

So the dog comes back a second time, the guy tells him to sit, then he raises the switch, at which point I scream HEY loud enough that it echoes (I'm sure the entire block heard me). I called him an idiot, then offered to come down and beat him with a stick (all in Chinese of course). The guy disappears fast enough so he doesn't get beaten by the crazy foreigner, and his poor wife follows along.

I probably didn't handle the situation well. I can't imagine that I made that poor little dog's life easier. He probably got home and smacked it around some more, or took it out on his wife or whatever. But in that kind of situation, I had nothing to report. I didn't have time to take a picture, nor did I really have a way to know where this guy lived without following him.

I'm just glad there were six floors of separation between us, otherwise, I probably would have taken his stick, smacked him a few times and then screamed "guo lai, guo lai"...and I probably would be facing deportation, lol.

What is the best thing to do in such a situation? I really have no idea. For me, quietly going down and following him or trying to take a picture wouldn't work because I, admittedly, have a temper...especially when it comes to this sort of thing.

you should of told him to reward his dog for correct behaviour. He probably beat the hell out of that dog when he got it home. Not a good move on your part.
He is ignorant and needs education. However, I have done the same thing or similar before as you did but yeah wrong response on your part and very wrong and idiotic behaviour on his. I have learned to better control myself here and try to get the message across or at least get them to think about it.
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby elburro » 26 Nov 2010, 17:31

I often see dogs being kept in tiny cages or boxes day and night. I'm just not sure how to best document such abuse? Do any of you have examples of what photos/videos you have taken to document animal abuse? Especially of cases where animals are being kept in tiny cages/boxes?

I got one particular case that I'd like to report. This dog must have been kept in a tiny box for a couple of years. Never seen it outside the box.
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby fenlander » 31 Dec 2010, 22:42

OKay thanks to this board a horse has just been saved from a horrible life in Kaoshung (Gaoxiong) county. A Taiwanese student friend of mine took a picture of a horse that was chained up night and day on a tiny chain so it could not even move around. It was very neglected. My friend was in despair as she had no idea what she could do or who she could call to help the horse. I gave her the animal protection website as posted on this thread. The people in charge of the animal protection website then gave her another number for south Taiwan 072237213. Within three days the owner had been fined 30 000NT$.
The aunthorities are now also going to keep a close eye on the horse and make sure he (the owner) keeps to his pledge of treating it more humanely in the future.
So happy new year to the horse. It took just one phone call some good photographs and three days to give that horse a better life. This was a great new years present for me as I love horses.
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby Stray Dog » 01 Jan 2011, 05:55

Good for you! :bravo:
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Postby zaowangyeh » 01 Jan 2011, 07:46

Dr Zoidberg wrote:Taiwan has animal protection laws? Wow! I never would have thunk it.


You wouldn't believe the pioneer days then son. Herding dens of street dogs with nunchacku, betting on fights, and tailing road side stand vendors as they bait their prey to slaughterhouse.
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby hipster dufus » 01 Jan 2011, 13:51

I definitely think calling the phone numbers posted by Stray Dog is the way to go. Unfortunately, yelling at these people is not the answer and could get you hurt or even killed. As satisfying as it may seem to yell-at or put your knuckle sandwich on the chops of an animal abuser, you in turn would be an abuser as well. This is a worldwide problem. Even in developed countries the abuse still goes on, ahem Michael Vick.

If you see something that is immediate, use your cell phone or other to record the incident then contact the authorities. The video must be clear as the abuser can deny the image. Don't try to follow the abuser as it may lead to a confrontation. If you do follow them try not to be obvious. If you are confronted keep your camera rolling. You need evidence if anything occurs. Also look around where the abuse took place. They may have video cameras there. Record the license plate on their vehicle as to make it easier for authorities to locate the individual.
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby bumclouds » 02 Feb 2011, 00:29

Today as I was walking to the 24hr Mcdonalds I saw a dog running across the middle of the road. Before I could even think of what to do a car hit him (at about ~60km/h?) There was a terrible thud and the dog ran back across the road screaming/yelping. He ran back into a nearby shop and the owners of the dog began mopping up the blood while the dog was shaking with trauma. There were some shop owners about 3 doors down who were laughing and clapping at the dog and trying to get him to come over like he was OK.

My Chinese isn't very good but I tried to tell them that there is an animal hospital a little bit down the road and it might be open still, but they just ignored me. Is there anything I can do? I'm pretty sure the dog will be dying a pretty slow, horrible death right now.
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby jimipresley » 02 Feb 2011, 00:38

Sure-fire way to have your holiday ruined, isn't it? I dunno. Go back and offer to pay for treatment yourself and shame them into action? Breaks your heart, eh?
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby petr0lb0mb » 02 Feb 2011, 18:20

fenlander wrote:OKay thanks to this board a horse has just been saved from a horrible life in Kaoshung (Gaoxiong) (Gaoxiong) county.


Nice! Thank you and your friend!
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Re: What to do if you see animal abuse (new contact details)

Postby ushneb » 16 Mar 2011, 03:54

Video evidence applies to people as well right? What I mean is if I inadvertently beat the crap out of some a-hole who abuses his dog and there is no video evidence of me laying a finger on him, then I'm in the clear. Right? lol

It's like that saying, if a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it still make a sound?

Some people are just unbelievable. Luckily I haven't seen such abuse other than what's been reported on TV, but I think I would completely lose it.
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