Zla'od wrote:OrangeOrganics, I hope that I would never be so foolish as to claim that all religions "are basically the same." Even the same religion (so called) will inevitably differ from group to group, or believer to believer.
You're right that the sutras don't encourage killing unbelievers--rather the opposite. But Protestants to the contrary notwithstanding, religions cannot be reduced to their fundamental texts (although there do exist "Qur'an Only" Muslims--who tend to be liberals, by the way). In the Buddhist countries that I mentioned, Buddhism takes on a certain political role, and particular monks (or lay patrons) regularly arise to direct popular wrath against local Hindus (in Sri Lanka) or Muslims (in Burma and southern Thailand). In terms of texts, there is always that old standby of the Trimondis, the Kalachakratantra, although I haven't noticed Buddhists rallying around its bellicose passages recently.
So you've noticed that there are other forms of Islam with different tenets, such as the Sufis you mention...?
Zla'od wrote:So you're comfortable with the suggestion that there are both liberal and conservative Muslims...? And both liberal and conservative ways to interpret the Qur'an...? In that case the problem would not be with Islam per se, but only with certain forms of it.
Zla'od wrote:Oh, it's worse than that. Not only are Christianity and Islam different from each other, but there is so much diversity within each, that it becomes hard to generalize.
What form of Islam would you consider "mainstream"? Taipei has two mosques--would you accept either of them as representative of the Muslim mainstream? The USA must have thousands--which group gets to define the religion?
You're right that "liberal" and "conservative" can be difficult to define. Would you accept Alevism as a liberal form of Islam? (Look it up if you have to.)
Zla'od wrote:Like this one? http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -for-isis/
Or this one? http://www.pewforum.org/2009/12/17/litt ... Americans/
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