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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby Mucha Man » 13 Sep 2015, 23:54

hannes wrote:
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hannes wrote:Longshan Temple

Used to live in the area around the temple. Never liked Wanhua, old and dirty. Once in a while I go back. This time I found Longshan Temple quite nice, actually.

This was fun. Did you use Hyperlapse?

Some captions would have been nice. ;)


Thanks MuMan! Yep, walking around making a shot every second. Captions would be nice, but in order to do that I would need to know things about the temple, and that would require work... :ponder:

I'll do more of those "walkthroughs," maybe I mix in some text, some sound, some real footage.


I am thinking about doing some walkthroughs with text captions for Taiwan Temples.
“Everywhere else in the world is also really old” said Prof. Liu, a renowned historian at Beijing University. “We always learn that China has 5000 years of cultural heritage, and that therefore we are very special. It appears that other places also have some of this heritage stuff. And are also old. Like, really old.”

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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby ranlee » 16 Oct 2015, 11:50

Not exactly like your tour videos, but here's a video I made from a bike ride last weekend with a few other members from the forum.



I do apologize for the video sound meshing with the music (and not adjusting the shaking). I usually try not to put too much thought into the video otherwise it would probably take me countless hours to create and perfect a video. I did that with a few of my old video/trips with timing/transitions/editing, by the time I finished with the video, my friends were already done hyping the awesome trip we had. I later decided to create the video the same day of my rides with just some cutting and added music. Hope you guys enjoy!

Here's the route we rode and the write-up I did of it in the cycling sub-forum.

http://forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=134&t=103684&start=130#p1714860

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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby hannes » 16 Oct 2015, 13:07

Cool, I know the area well. But from hiking, not cycling. I often walk on minor roads and think, that would be a great route for cyclists. There are so many good routes off the main highways, too.
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby ranlee » 16 Oct 2015, 14:01

hannes wrote:Cool, I know the area well. But from hiking, not cycling. I often walk on minor roads and think, that would be a great route for cyclists. There are so many good routes off the main highways, too.


Thanks hannes, I'm trying to make improvements to the videos each week. Friends are telling me my editing is getting better. I had about 40 minutes of footage of people's behinds and cut it to most of the "action".

I really want to get in some interaction amongst the members when we stop for coffee or having a quick bite to eat, but it's tough when my camera is mounted to my handlebar and taking the camera in and out of the case is annoying.

Any constructive criticism?
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby hannes » 16 Oct 2015, 14:27

ranlee wrote:
hannes wrote:Cool, I know the area well. But from hiking, not cycling. I often walk on minor roads and think, that would be a great route for cyclists. There are so many good routes off the main highways, too.


Thanks hannes, I'm trying to make improvements to the videos each week. Friends are telling me my editing is getting better. I had about 40 minutes of footage of people's behinds and cut it to most of the "action".

I really want to get in some interaction amongst the members when we stop for coffee or having a quick bite to eat, but it's tough when my camera is mounted to my handlebar and taking the camera in and out of the case is annoying.

Any constructive criticism?


First thing I would do is figure out how to mount the camera (gopro?) in a way that you can detach it easily and mount it in different places. Then I would try all sorts of angles. Pointing backwards. Pointing at your feet. Put it on your helmet. Point it at your face. Hold it in your hand. Show more of the scenery. Then I would figure out how to get rid of the noise. If the noise can't be avoided, probably turn down the volume or mute it altogether. Just some suggestions. Even better, watch how the gopro pros film action and try things out. The more you experience the better you get.
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby ranlee » 16 Oct 2015, 14:38

hannes wrote:First thing I would do is figure out how to mount the camera (gopro?) in a way that you can detach it easily and mount it in different places. Then I would try all sorts of angles. Pointing backwards. Pointing at your feet. Put it on your helmet. Point it at your face. Hold it in your hand. Show more of the scenery. Then I would figure out how to get rid of the noise. If the noise can't be avoided, probably turn down the volume or mute it altogether. Just some suggestions. Even better, watch how the gopro pros film action and try things out. The more you experience the better you get.


THanks for the feedback hannes, much appreciated. Will definitely look into more angles.

The audio from the actual video was a mistake I made. I was physically tired and mind was turning off when I did the final cut, I usually turn the video audio down to about 25% and the music at 50-75%.

I watch a lot of gopro videos from the cycling pros when they have grand tour races, but the production value on those video is ridonculous. However, good videos to learn from.
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby Mucha Man » 16 Oct 2015, 23:12

ranlee wrote:
hannes wrote:Cool, I know the area well. But from hiking, not cycling. I often walk on minor roads and think, that would be a great route for cyclists. There are so many good routes off the main highways, too.


Thanks hannes, I'm trying to make improvements to the videos each week. Friends are telling me my editing is getting better. I had about 40 minutes of footage of people's behinds and cut it to most of the "action".

I really want to get in some interaction amongst the members when we stop for coffee or having a quick bite to eat, but it's tough when my camera is mounted to my handlebar and taking the camera in and out of the case is annoying.

Any constructive criticism?


I liked it but too long, not enough variation. A minute of riding would have been better.

If you want to go longer maybe use text to break up the scenes: The Climb: The Plateau; The Stop; etc. Give some purpose to the ride, even a made up one, or some kind of narrative. The ride can be an example of a classic Taiwan mountain ride; this ride came after a long spell of rainy weather. Or use text to describe what we are seeing: name the mountains, the villages, the vegetation. Etc.

If you want some interaction when you stop just record that with your cell phone. The quality will be fine for what you are doing.

It might be nice to also cut up the time sequence a bit. Have the voices from the cafe stop come in at the moment of the ride they are describing, then quickly splice to you guys talking at the cafe.

As for the camera audio, just mute it completely (as in don't even turn it on when you are cycling) if you are using a music soundtrack. Or figure out the sound envelope tool on your software.
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby ranlee » 19 Oct 2015, 09:50

Mucha Man wrote:I liked it but too long, not enough variation. A minute of riding would have been better.

If you want to go longer maybe use text to break up the scenes: The Climb: The Plateau; The Stop; etc. Give some purpose to the ride, even a made up one, or some kind of narrative. The ride can be an example of a classic Taiwan mountain ride; this ride came after a long spell of rainy weather. Or use text to describe what we are seeing: name the mountains, the villages, the vegetation. Etc.

If you want some interaction when you stop just record that with your cell phone. The quality will be fine for what you are doing.

It might be nice to also cut up the time sequence a bit. Have the voices from the cafe stop come in at the moment of the ride they are describing, then quickly splice to you guys talking at the cafe.

As for the camera audio, just mute it completely (as in don't even turn it on when you are cycling) if you are using a music soundtrack. Or figure out the sound envelope tool on your software.


Thanks Mucha, I agree with your all comments, especially that it's too long, I'm working at getting better at editing out long boring parts of people's butts. It's a little tough when 90 minutes of footage has to be cut down to 3-6 minutes, but I think adding in some variety and text/captions would definitely make a 6 min long video more enjoyable. I now have to find a fellow cyclist that is willing to get in front of the camera, which won't be easy to convince them.

I really try to make it as if there's a chronological order or story, but there really isn't much dialogue in my videos to express that. The main issue for that is, the camera is mounted on the bike and must be taken out of the waterproof case for any kind of interaction with the group. I will highly consider this since, as you mentioned, is something missing.

As for splicing audio/video. I wish I was using good software to do that. You can probably tell that I'm just using crappy Windows Movie Maker to easily split and cut the videos and add music. I'm not proud of it, but the user interface on it is fool proof.

I think I will consider buying a HTC RE, it's so much more handy to take out of my back pocket in the middle of the ride and take pics or a quick video. Taking out my cell phone, unlocking and finally getting to the camera, can be dangerous if road conditions all of a sudden change.
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby hannes » 19 Oct 2015, 10:04

ranlee wrote:...especially that it's too long...


I think a video is never too long if it's good. If viewers think it's too long, it's most likely because it's not interesting enough (meaning boring). I spend way too much time on figuring out how to make videos shorter, but now I don't care anymore about that and focus instead on making every second interesting. Cut out the boring bits and the repetitive bits and your video will become shorter as a matter of course. To avoid having too much uninteresting footage in the first place, be selective when shooting, only shoot the really interesting moments.

If people think your video is too long and boring, it's also because there are gazillions of other videos out there with the potential to be more interesting, so in essence you are competing with the whole Youtube world and Internet content in general. Getting a lot of views is not an easy task, cause people are always enticed by something that might be more interesting and is only one click/tap away.
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Re: Taiwan Travel Videos

Postby Chris » 19 Oct 2015, 10:46

Here's my video from the 2015 Wang Yeh Boat Burning Festival in Donggang, which took place earlier this month. This triennial event is my favorite of all of Taiwan's festivals.

Perhaps more of a destination video than a travel video. But I did have to take a train and a bus to get there!

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